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Title: Fantasy bikes / crazy ideas / what if ?
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Wednesday, 01 August 2018, 05:28 PM
Fantasy bikes / crazy ideas / what if ?

Anyone else have "what if" thoughts and dumb idea's ?

Bikes you wish they had or would build ?

Just me ?



A Buell built to a higher standard with a TL1000 motor.

A Classic Z650 styled bike based around a Z(Gpz)750 Turbo motor, even when the Z/Gpz750 turbo came out I always thought there was a crazy idea of doing the 1100 to a similar spec.

A modern take on the Pari-Dakar 4 cylinder FZT750

A GSX-S1200 (a production version of Phil Taintons conversion)
Title: Re: Fantasy bikes / crazy ideas / what if ?
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Wednesday, 01 August 2018, 05:32 PM
As posted before...

There have been artists impressions of a new Katana for years, and folk have hung the bodywork on heavy or average bikes like Bandits and GSX1400's, but the original was always a top end bike, something aggressive. I like to see a retro Kat based around a Busa or GSXR1000 engine and running gear.

(https://gsx1400owners.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi65.tinypic.com%2F211305w.jpg&hash=4f309b53591636629807816e675032b795869339)
Title: Re: Fantasy bikes / crazy ideas / what if ?
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Wednesday, 01 August 2018, 05:32 PM

.... and a ZRX1100 / 1200 / DAEG styled bike (Eddie Lawson Rep?) based around a ZX14R / ZZR1400 please.
Title: Re: Fantasy bikes / crazy ideas / what if ?
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Wednesday, 01 August 2018, 05:45 PM

.... and of course, a 2019 GSX1400.

Maybe a GSX1500? 1600? 1700? Radial brakes and a modern flashable / mappable ECU.
Title: Re: Fantasy bikes / crazy ideas / what if ?
Post by: grog on Wednesday, 01 August 2018, 07:34 PM
2019 gsx 1400 . my dream. exact same looks. monoblock brakes. much more cc. 150bhp. with same feel. torque i mean. not much i dislike on my bike, id be a happy old bloke.
Title: Re: Fantasy bikes / crazy ideas / what if ?
Post by: T 24 on Thursday, 02 August 2018, 06:42 AM
You should try GSX 1400 turbo. That feeling of the power and torq is so addictive, that there is no way back!!
Title: Re: Fantasy bikes / crazy ideas / what if ?
Post by: grog on Thursday, 02 August 2018, 10:52 AM
T24, I can imagine actually, my mate has 14 with one those horrible looking superchargers. It sure can move along. Getting on it was scary at first but soon enjoyed. Biggest let down was getting back on mine, where has my grunt gone. Soon became normal but showed me the potential of a 14 motor.
Title: Re: Fantasy bikes / crazy ideas / what if ?
Post by: VladTepes on Tuesday, 14 August 2018, 11:54 AM
Quote from: Tony Nitrous on Wednesday, 01 August  2018, 05:28 PM
A Buell built to a higher standard with a TL1000 motor.

An interesting concept for sure. I love the Buells, I love those Suzuki V twin motors. (In fact I'd love a sorted TL1000R to be honest).
But the design you suggest would have to have a chain drive rather than belts, or no deal.  :)


Ducati Diavels are nice (fit me like a glove I discovered, though didn't actually ride one) so one of those but made to look like its made from metal not plastic / CF.

Quote from: Tony Nitrous on Wednesday, 01 August  2018, 05:45 PM

.... and of course, a 2019 GSX1400.

Maybe a GSX1500? 1600? 1700? Radial brakes and a modern flashable / mappable ECU.
and ABS of course.  GSX1700 has a nice ring to it...

Be nice if when the Gen 3 'busa comes out, they would release a retro-styled bike based on the Gen 2 - like the one doing the rounds with the old slab-side style GXSR fairing.

(https://www.morebikes.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/imagegallery-13499-5ab8c75b3de41.jpg)
https://www.morebikes.co.uk/46307/check-this-out-when-busa-meets-1989s-gsx-r1100/


I also really wish they'd build Moto Guzzis with power! Because if the V7 range had the power of a Trumpy Thruxton, I'd buy one.
Title: Re: Fantasy bikes / crazy ideas / what if ?
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Monday, 03 September 2018, 04:26 AM
What about a GT500 motor in a GS500..... :confused1:
Title: Re: Fantasy bikes / crazy ideas / what if ?
Post by: Teufel on Tuesday, 04 September 2018, 10:34 AM
This is the sort of thing I dream about.
182 hp 119 kgs
And how simple (sort of) is the concept?
Title: Re: Fantasy bikes / crazy ideas / what if ?
Post by: grog on Tuesday, 04 September 2018, 07:40 PM
Teufel, more info please. what is it. Tony, that Titan motor in that would be awesome. have done many ks on 250, 315 and 500 versions. unbelievable motors, rev to max forever. never fail. at least mine never did. still wish i had one. my upgrade was gt550, then gt 750, had 4 of them. never broke any, yeah i did, seized L model first week. too fast, too soon. ported it, built chambers, could pass z1 in 1973, was an achievement.
Title: Re: Fantasy bikes / crazy ideas / what if ?
Post by: Teufel on Tuesday, 04 September 2018, 11:01 PM
Hi Grog,

http://amcn.com.au/editorial/tularis-800/

Here's a good article. Amazing bike.
Title: Re: Fantasy bikes / crazy ideas / what if ?
Post by: ARH on Wednesday, 05 September 2018, 03:18 AM
Teufel... I think most of us would almost double the weight of that just sitting on it  :rofl2:
Title: Re: Fantasy bikes / crazy ideas / what if ?
Post by: grog on Wednesday, 05 September 2018, 07:10 AM
Thanks for link Teufel. Amazing bike & story. Power up 37kw in 500 revs, that is something scary.
Title: Re: Fantasy bikes / crazy ideas / what if ?
Post by: gsxbarmy on Wednesday, 05 September 2018, 07:37 AM
Fantasy bikes? - crackers I'd say this lot!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWWQT6Yj03w
Title: Re: Fantasy bikes / crazy ideas / what if ?
Post by: Mick_J on Thursday, 06 September 2018, 01:33 AM
Check out Alan Millyard's hand built specials.  This is a 5ltr V twin made from a radial aircraft engine.

C3WYbY2p9E4
Title: Re: Fantasy bikes / crazy ideas / what if ?
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Thursday, 06 September 2018, 04:07 AM
Quote from: mjgt on Thursday, 06 September  2018, 01:33 AM
Check out Alan Millyard's hand built specials.  This is a 5ltr V twin made from a radial aircraft engine.

C3WYbY2p9E4

He's a good bloke, he was happy to spend some time talking me through his 5ltr V-twin and 8ltr V10 bikes when I met him. Personally I prefer his Z13 and Z9 "V"s. For someone without the big factory facility's and budget his builds are very VERY impressive.
Title: Re: Fantasy bikes / crazy ideas / what if ?
Post by: Mick_J on Friday, 07 September 2018, 01:39 AM
Never really been into Honda's but this is interesting.

https://www.morebikes.co.uk/51871/mick-doohans-custom-glemseck-honda-cb1000r/
Title: Re: Fantasy bikes / crazy ideas / what if ?
Post by: KiwiCol on Friday, 07 September 2018, 02:31 AM
I reckon that's got Tony Nitrous written all over it!  Lovely looking thing, too much for me to handle though.
Title: Re: Fantasy bikes / crazy ideas / what if ?
Post by: VladTepes on Friday, 07 September 2018, 03:27 PM
Quote from: KiwiCol on Friday, 07 September  2018, 02:31 AM
I reckon that's got Tony Nitrous written all over it!

No, it's missing a Suzuki badge.
Title: Re: Fantasy bikes / crazy ideas / what if ?
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Friday, 07 September 2018, 03:33 PM
Quote from: VladTepes on Friday, 07 September  2018, 03:27 PM
Quote from: KiwiCol on Friday, 07 September  2018, 02:31 AM
I reckon that's got Tony Nitrous written all over it!

No, it's missing a Suzuki badge.

If I was spending on bikes and not the house at the moment I'd have a Kawasaki H2 or H2-SX.  As it is funds are limited until I move so I'm only looking for a cheaper Busa.
Title: Re: Fantasy bikes / crazy ideas / what if ?
Post by: VladTepes on Friday, 07 September 2018, 03:35 PM
My heart breaks for ya mate  :stir: :onya:
Title: Re: Fantasy bikes / crazy ideas / what if ?
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Friday, 07 September 2018, 03:43 PM
Quote from: VladTepes on Friday, 07 September  2018, 03:35 PM
My heart breaks for ya mate  :stir: :onya:

Not desperate for one, but set myself a $5k budget for the right bike. Not fussed if I don't buy one yet. Waiting to see what the Gen-3 does to current prices.

I just fancy an unregistered Gen-1 or 2 and strip off the road gear and slam and stretch it and have a play at the drags. I've run low 10's for years but on full height short road bikes. I just fancy seeing how I go on a more race styled bike.

Of course, if I see anything else that's a bargain, I have very little self control.
Title: Re: Fantasy bikes / crazy ideas / what if ?
Post by: VladTepes on Friday, 07 September 2018, 04:37 PM
Sounds like fun.

I also find that self control is over-rated.
Title: Re: Fantasy bikes / crazy ideas / what if ?
Post by: Rod G on Friday, 07 September 2018, 09:12 PM
Quote from: Tony Nitrous on Monday, 03 September  2018, 04:26 AM
What about a GT500 motor in a GS500..... :confused1:

I'd love a H2 Mach IV 750 dressed like this. Expansion chambers, and race tuned of course. I would unfortunately be absolutely shit scared of it  :)