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Title: Buying Batteries..New Laws.
Post by: froudy on Saturday, 16 June 2018, 06:35 PM
This could cause us a few problems in the future :furious:

https://www.adventurebikerider.com/new-regulations-buying-motorcycle-batteries/
Title: Re: Buying Batteries..New Laws.
Post by: grog on Saturday, 16 June 2018, 06:39 PM
the world is fxxxxxd, just my opinion.
Title: Re: Buying Batteries..New Laws.
Post by: seth on Saturday, 16 June 2018, 06:43 PM
This is probably due to the problem of f**kwhits criminals that throw acid in people's faces to help them steal things ECT.
Just a case of over reaction by the government not fully looking into the consequences of new laws as usual over reaction to a problem rather than dealing with the cause of it.
:furious: :frustrated:
Title: Re: Buying Batteries..New Laws.
Post by: froudy on Saturday, 16 June 2018, 06:48 PM
@seth
It's 100% guaranteed as a result of the f*ckwhit scrotes acid attacking people on the streets. The new law will make no difference whatsoever as I'm sure they don't buy batteries just so that they can use the acid to rob people. They'll just continue buying/shoplifting drain cleaner etc from their local supermarket.
As usual it'll be us..The law abiding citizens that suffer and pay the price.
Title: Re: Buying Batteries..New Laws.
Post by: grog on Saturday, 16 June 2018, 07:01 PM
guess i better get into it and order new battery. 9 yrs from original, bought motobatt, highly recod. now, 2 yrs later struggles. really disappointed. next choice? get another highly rated, deka supposedly best. $200 or yuasa, around same. or e bay special, obviously chinese for 70. annoyed i paid big bucks for a crap battery.
Title: Re: Buying Batteries..New Laws.
Post by: Irish in Oz on Saturday, 16 June 2018, 07:52 PM
Grog
Motobatt are Chinese. I bought one for my son's 250 Across couldn't crank it from brand new big volt drop on start taking out spark to plugs. They have a sneaky way of advertising on battery "Patent applied for USA" people then think that's where they are made.
I've been using Super Charge on a few bikes including 14 made in NZ, been good so far.
Title: Re: Buying Batteries..New Laws.
Post by: Mick_J on Saturday, 16 June 2018, 08:30 PM
Another fu*&ing stealth tax imposed because of assholes, it's a good job guns are banned or we would have loads in circulation.
Title: Re: Buying Batteries..New Laws.
Post by: Kiwifruit on Saturday, 16 June 2018, 08:56 PM
I bought a Motobatt.....won't buy another.
Title: Re: Buying Batteries..New Laws.
Post by: Latty66 on Saturday, 16 June 2018, 10:45 PM
Because of the mono shock on mine i had to replace the battrey to a smaller unit so i have a lithium ion same width and depth just half the hight and wieghts as much as a packet of faggs i.ll stick a pic up later its got a tester on top when you push it it tells you how much charge is in it turns the 14 no problem had it a year now no problems was about 85 to 90 pounds so not alot in it
Title: Re: Buying Batteries..New Laws.
Post by: VladTepes on Sunday, 17 June 2018, 12:50 AM
Much like gun laws, knife laws etc etc etc

Rather than look into the root cause, they just punish the 99.99999% of people happily doing the RIGHT thing.  I effin' hate it. Really winds me up.  :rant:

Also I detest people who trip over their own dicks acquiescing to such bullshit and in the process legitimizing laws that make it harder for people they presume to represent. To wit, the linked article is published by "Adventure Bike Rider" website. And they end the article with:

QuoteSo, what are your thoughts on the new motorcycle battery regulations that will be coming into place this year? We reckon it's about time.

Seriously, WTF    :furious:  :furious:  :furious:  :frustrated:
Title: Re: Buying Batteries..New Laws.
Post by: Latty66 on Sunday, 17 June 2018, 01:14 AM
Heres my batterey
Title: Re: Buying Batteries..New Laws.
Post by: Irish in Oz on Sunday, 17 June 2018, 04:40 AM
Sealed batteries have been around for a while it was inevitable the others would be phased out.
As for lithium in motorcycles there are different results with newer and older models, it's really a suck it and see if the charging system is compatable, there are different chargers for even the household range of rechargable AA AAA etc.
Title: Re: Buying Batteries..New Laws.
Post by: KiwiCol on Sunday, 17 June 2018, 05:23 AM
Quote from: grog on Saturday, 16 June  2018, 07:01 PM
guess i better get into it and order new battery. 9 yrs from original, bought motobatt, highly recod. now, 2 yrs later struggles. really disappointed. next choice? get another highly rated, deka supposedly best. $200 or yuasa, around same. or e bay special, obviously chinese for 70. annoyed i paid big bucks for a crap battery.
Yuasa is the way to go Grog, unless you want one of those lithium jobbies? 
Title: Re: Buying Batteries..New Laws.
Post by: Speedy1959 on Sunday, 17 June 2018, 04:31 PM
My bike is 13 years old and on its ORIGINAL Yuasa battery !!!

I was at a Suzuki dealership on Saturday and he confirmed it was the original battery.

I think that's excellent value for money if they last even half that time !!
Title: Re: Buying Batteries..New Laws.
Post by: Mick_J on Sunday, 17 June 2018, 06:59 PM
My bike is on it's original battery but my speed triple battery died earlier this year after 17 years service.  No complaints with yuasa batteries.
Title: Re: Buying Batteries..New Laws.
Post by: shanered6 on Monday, 18 June 2018, 07:15 PM
My 14 is on its original..... but i bought a motobatt for my tiger its shit !! def down on power on original and it suposed to be the same, but i have a mate who bought one but he went a size bigger than he needed and thats been brilliant .
as for the new law.... waste of bloody time ..... just another bloody Tax to pay :furious:.
Title: Re: Buying Batteries..New Laws.
Post by: Speedy1959 on Monday, 18 June 2018, 07:52 PM
I am giving serious thought to pre buying a Yuasa battery to keep for when I need it..
Title: Re: Buying Batteries..New Laws.
Post by: gsxbarmy on Monday, 18 June 2018, 09:12 PM
Rant and rave all you like, but I'm afraid I'm going to disagree and say that actually I don't think it a bad idea, in fact I applaud the move, call it a tax or whatever you like, but quite frankly this acid throwing is getting out of hand and there have to be some controls put in place and they have to start somewhere. OK, we may not like them, but does it really affect us? No, as we can still buy batteries already filled and charged from dealerships, buying online saves not a lot in any case. And how often do you buy a battery? Once in a blue moon.

Having had a mate suffer one of these attacks - fortunately only slight - then anything which can help stop idiots getting hold of this stuff has to be a step in the right direction. Maybe if you'd suffered acid burns then you'd have a different point of view. The disfiguration from it is (or can be) for life, the pain from it is not clever either.

To me this is a step in the right direction - it might not be the right step - but at least a step has been taken.





Title: Re: Buying Batteries..New Laws.
Post by: Speedy1959 on Monday, 18 June 2018, 10:54 PM
I was lead to believe the scroats obtained the chemicals from drain cleaners etc..

Maybe I am wrong..
Title: Re: Buying Batteries..New Laws.
Post by: lil4399 on Tuesday, 19 June 2018, 05:46 AM
Sealed/gel/lithium are the way forward, as Barmy says, trying to close the door on acid attackers is the way forward, other chemicals are also being restricted.

An inconvenience yes, a life changer? No, except for potential acid attack victims.
Title: Re: Buying Batteries..New Laws.
Post by: VladTepes on Tuesday, 19 June 2018, 09:47 AM
@grog

It's a shame my ebay history can't look back further than 2016, so I can't find the retailer.

But I bought a Yuasa battery (came with separate electrolyte pack) and it has been performing flawlessly.

So definitely go that way IMHO.

ebay options seem to be:
batterymart809  98.5% Positive feedback (still a good score)
mxstoreaustralia  99.9% Positive feedback  (possibly slightly more expensive than above)
Title: Re: Buying Batteries..New Laws.
Post by: grog on Tuesday, 19 June 2018, 06:38 PM
Mine hardly started this morn. Bought a superstart HVT8. AGM battery with 300 cca claimed. Best ive ever had Yuasa, Motobatt was 190. Tested at 347 tonight. Will see how it lasts. Certainly zings the starter over.
Title: Re: Buying Batteries..New Laws.
Post by: froudy on Wednesday, 20 June 2018, 06:10 PM
I've used MDS Batteries for a while now. Good price for Yuasa and a good company to deal with :onya:
The last one I got from them I kept in the shed until I needed to change it. Went to go for a ride out and the original Yuasa had died. I just fired the acid pack into the new battery, fitted it and the bike fired straight up with no need to charge it.

https://www.mdsbattery.co.uk/yuasa-ytx14-bs-motorcycle-battery.html
Title: Re: Buying Batteries..New Laws.
Post by: grog on Wednesday, 20 June 2018, 07:09 PM
this morn was a cool 8 degree , checked new batt and 353 cca, far better than any other ive had. best from yuasa/motobatt was 190. . bike just starts in an instant. how long it lasts? will keep you blokes posted. $20 cheaper than yuasa/160cca more. very impressed
Title: Re: Buying Batteries..New Laws.
Post by: KiwiCol on Wednesday, 20 June 2018, 07:21 PM
Sounds like the way to go Grog.  Not heard of them here yet though.

That's a great wee meter you've got. What's it called & how much are they?
Title: Re: Buying Batteries..New Laws.
Post by: grog on Wednesday, 20 June 2018, 09:13 PM
Col, DHC is  one in pic, just my home one. Works well $100. My work one is Midtronics, amazing machine. Gives paper printout, around $800.Both save all the guess work, measure batt and give results.