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Title: Help
Post by: Red Biker on Sunday, 10 June 2018, 11:39 PM
Blasted out to Lincoln and now bike won't start!!
As I got here I was fighting to stop it from stalling left it an hour but now try's to start but cuts out almost instantly.

Any help much appreciated

Cheers
Red
Title: Re: Help
Post by: shanered6 on Sunday, 10 June 2018, 11:50 PM
Sorry I cant help you Red .... but it does sound like a fuel problem ! is the pump priming when you turn the igntion on ?
Title: Re: Help
Post by: Red Biker on Monday, 11 June 2018, 12:08 AM
It is Shane, actually runs for a few seconds if I keep the revs up but then dies!

Title: Re: Help
Post by: Mick_J on Monday, 11 June 2018, 12:19 AM
I've just spent most of the day sorting my bike out after it stopped dead 40 miles from home yesterday, called the RAC out and they called out a B/Down truck to transport me home.  This morning I checked the obvious, sparks, air an fuel.  Clean air filter, good spark but when I pulled a plug it was dry and I had tried several times, as did the RAC to start the bike.  Out with the fuel pump and it all fell apart as I removed it from the tank, the pressure release valve had pushed the retainer clip off and popped itself out, turn the key on the and the pump primes but with no pressure the injectors did not get fed.  I made a cage to sit over the pump housing to ensure that does not happen again, refitted it and the bike started up straight away.  So I had a 5 1/2 hour wait yesterday to get home, at least it was dry and warm.  My bike did not run at all but it might be worth a look Red in case you are loosing most of your pressure but it's enough to start.
Title: Re: Help
Post by: gsxbarmy on Monday, 11 June 2018, 12:31 AM
It could be the Pressure Regulator clip has come off of the fuel pump inside the tank. If you have an electrical tie and can get the pump out that will sort it to get you home

http://gsx1400owners.org/forum/index.php?topic=1610.0
Title: Re: Help
Post by: shanered6 on Monday, 11 June 2018, 12:32 AM
its a real strange one !  it could be pump not keeping the pressure up but it could be electrical or any number of things  :confused1: its realy tough to help from a distance the only thing is to start with the simple stuff and go from there .... sorry i cant be of more help !
Title: Re: Help
Post by: Red Biker on Monday, 11 June 2018, 12:37 AM
Is it worth twiddling the idle speed adjuster?
Stranded without tools so calling van man now !
Title: Re: Help
Post by: Andre on Monday, 11 June 2018, 01:35 AM
At least it can't  hurt to twiddle :whatever:
Title: Re: Help
Post by: Red Biker on Monday, 11 June 2018, 03:31 AM
Consensus seems to be the clip on the fuel pump so will check that first.

Thanks for everyone's input 👋
Title: Re: Help
Post by: seth on Monday, 11 June 2018, 03:40 AM
Not a clue buddy but hope you get it sorted asap.
:cheers:
Title: Re: Help
Post by: Kiwifruit on Monday, 11 June 2018, 09:43 AM
Sorry to hear of your problems Red.
I have had maybe 3 instances in 50,000k when the bike has decided to run like yours. Each time l have then gone to the gas station, filled it up and my issues have disappeared and I have no idea why.

Title: Re: Help
Post by: Proteous on Monday, 11 June 2018, 12:55 PM
Only just seen this, wish i had last night as i could have brought tools.. So whats the news? get home ok? work out the issue? is she running?
Title: Re: Help
Post by: Globalrider on Monday, 11 June 2018, 01:05 PM
Red - I got stuck in Ireland a while back with a frustrating problem - it turned out to be the rectifier!
I spent a couple of days in Dublin figuring this out but thankfully the local shop knew the problem.
Safe riding!
Title: Re: Help
Post by: shanered6 on Wednesday, 13 June 2018, 07:20 AM
How have you got on Red ? ... any luck ?
Title: Re: Help
Post by: Hooli on Wednesday, 13 June 2018, 08:20 AM
If you've not found it yet check the vacuum pipes too. If one of them is off it won't run at low throttle settings, guess how I found this out after balancing throttles....
Title: Re: Help
Post by: Andre on Wednesday, 13 June 2018, 08:30 AM
Also vacuum related, could be the IAP sensor. A quick check if it is the IAP sensor: switch it with the AP sensor (they are the same part#).
Title: Re: Help
Post by: Red Biker on Thursday, 14 June 2018, 06:39 PM
Hi All,
Thanks for the comments, I've been in isolation the last few days as I'm still mad with her!!!

@ Kiwi- Do you know that had crossed my mind about bad fuel and I think it's the first thing I'll do, I filled up (probably had 1/4 tank left in) and had 35 miles of quick A roads before getting to Lincoln, it was only then when I had to stop at lights I noticed I was fighting to keep it from stalling!

When I got picked up in the van and back home, the mechanic started her and kept it going for a couple of minutes by revving high and whilst still rough it was slightly better.
He advised checking air filter and injectors/plugs  he's pretty sure it's fuel related.

The petrol I put in was the premium grade at Tesco, I've not used that before so first thought is to drain it and put the usual Shell v max in!

If that doesn't work I'm going for cleaning the injectors!

Cheers
Red

Title: Re: Help
Post by: BJ on Friday, 15 June 2018, 02:16 AM
I've just had the problem of not being able to start/idle. See "will not start" under fueling.
Changed the teabag ( which was no where as dirty as some I've seen) and rinsed out the HP pump best I could. The Bike still sputtered a bit so so I dropped in some injector cleaner and now pulls to at least 7 with no breakdown. Good luck
Title: Re: Help
Post by: Red Biker on Friday, 15 June 2018, 06:03 AM
Cheers BJ , yeah that sounds exactly what I'm getting, although I cleaned the low pressure filter over the winter and it was nowhere near the colour of yours, it's like new now.