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Title: Chesterton Mill Drone footage.
Post by: Proteous on Monday, 21 May 2018, 01:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNwM1Sr6N1M&t=2s
Title: Re: Chesterton Mill Drone footage.
Post by: Speedy1959 on Monday, 21 May 2018, 03:11 PM
Blime don't you sleep ?

Nice steady camera work from your drone.
Title: Re: Chesterton Mill Drone footage.
Post by: VladTepes on Monday, 21 May 2018, 03:29 PM
What a wonderful building / factory / agricultural machine ! 

A few drone elated questions.

What was the distance from where you were controlling it (presumably near where the flight video started) to the mill?

The 'orbit' around the mill - is that a feature that can be used or did you have to manually fly it around the mill, adjusting the camera,  Seems awfully smooth is all.

Is that a Mavic Pro drone? (I think you said that before). What price are those over there, because here they START at around AUD$1200 (GBP 672) online ($1500 for official DJI store) and $1700+ (GBP 952) for the full kit with extra bits and pieces.

Oh and you need an ipad on top of all that too apparently.

I'd be interested to know how your prices compare.

I'd love one but can neither afford it, nor have the time for more hobbies.... :)

Our drone laws here are, I believe, substantially more restrictive than in the UK - but I could be wrong.
Certainly the opportunity to use them in / around suburbia is almost nil. Somewhere rural like you have in this vid would be OK but a lot of people hate them being flown over their private land - and I can well understand why (incidents of greenies using footage to attack farmers, or poachers looking for deer on people's private land etc).



Title: Re: Chesterton Mill Drone footage.
Post by: Globalrider on Monday, 21 May 2018, 04:06 PM
I have to get a drone!
Nice steady footage !!
Title: Re: Chesterton Mill Drone footage.
Post by: Kiwifruit on Monday, 21 May 2018, 04:12 PM
Nice footage Proteous.
More questions from me, well the wife actually. She would like to know how old the mill is and was there a village there at some point. The mill is in the middle of nowhere ?

In NZ we dont have too many drone laws yet.......but they are coming.
Have had commercial airliners diverted because of them flying too close.
Title: Re: Chesterton Mill Drone footage.
Post by: Proteous on Tuesday, 22 May 2018, 02:26 AM
Quote from: VladTepes on Monday, 21 May  2018, 03:29 PM
What a wonderful building / factory / agricultural machine ! 

A few drone elated questions.

What was the distance from where you were controlling it (presumably near where the flight video started) to the mill?

The 'orbit' around the mill - is that a feature that can be used or did you have to manually fly it around the mill, adjusting the camera,  Seems awfully smooth is all.

Is that a Mavic Pro drone? (I think you said that before). What price are those over there, because here they START at around AUD$1200 (GBP 672) online ($1500 for official DJI store) and $1700+ (GBP 952) for the full kit with extra bits and pieces.

Oh and you need an ipad on top of all that too apparently.

I'd be interested to know how your prices compare.

I'd love one but can neither afford it, nor have the time for more hobbies.... :)

Our drone laws here are, I believe, substantially more restrictive than in the UK - but I could be wrong.
Certainly the opportunity to use them in / around suburbia is almost nil. Somewhere rural like you have in this vid would be OK but a lot of people hate them being flown over their private land - and I can well understand why (incidents of greenies using footage to attack farmers, or poachers looking for deer on people's private land etc).

I was actually at the foot of the mill itself. The drone has a 7.5km range so it goes anywhere. That flight was completely manualy controled no autonamous flight modes used at all.. The drone does have flight modes but none that would give you what i have created here.

It is indeed the Mavic Pro there has just been a UK price drop that has upset me greatly.. I paid £1150 for the drone with all the extra stuff like spare batteries and such.. You can now get the same deal for around £900ish.

Quote from: Kiwifruit on Monday, 21 May  2018, 04:12 PM
Nice footage Proteous.
More questions from me, well the wife actually. She would like to know how old the mill is and was there a village there at some point. The mill is in the middle of nowhere ?

In NZ we dont have too many drone laws yet.......but they are coming.
Have had commercial airliners diverted because of them flying too close.
The windmill is one of Warwickshire's most famous landmarks. It stands on a hilltop overlooking the village of Chesterton, near the Roman Fosse Way and about five miles (8 km) south-east of Warwick. It was built around 1632-1633, probably by Sir Edward Peyto, who was Lord of the Chesterton Manor House. At this time John Stone, a pupil of Inigo Jones, was in Chesterton designing the new Manor House and he probably helped with the windmill as well. Sir Edward was a mathematician and astrologer and probably his own architect to the windmill, but although claims have been made that the tower was originally built as an observatory, the estate accounts now at Warwick Record Office show that it has always been a windmill,[2] making it the earliest tower mill in England to retain any of its working parts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chesterton_Windmill


Its a lovely spot, there is always someone there just ... sitting.. contemplating life i guess.. there is most deffinitely an atmosphere there.
Title: Re: Chesterton Mill Drone footage.
Post by: VladTepes on Tuesday, 22 May 2018, 10:05 AM
Sounds like you've had plenty of piloting practice then...


A bloke here got in huge trouble because he sent a drone down to grab a sambo from the local sausage sizzle.  I call that innovation.  Government lacks a sense of humour.
Title: Re: Chesterton Mill Drone footage.
Post by: Speedy1959 on Tuesday, 22 May 2018, 10:38 PM
Quote from: VladTepes on Tuesday, 22 May  2018, 10:05 AM
Sounds like you've had plenty of piloting practice then...


A bloke here got in huge trouble because he sent a drone down to grab a sambo from the local sausage sizzle.  I call that innovation.  Government lacks a sense of humour.

Could the drone have the lifting capacity for some beer?
Now that would be useful..
Title: Re: Chesterton Mill Drone footage.
Post by: Proteous on Tuesday, 22 May 2018, 11:11 PM
Quote from: Speedy1959 on Tuesday, 22 May  2018, 10:38 PM
Quote from: VladTepes on Tuesday, 22 May  2018, 10:05 AM
Sounds like you've had plenty of piloting practice then...


A bloke here got in huge trouble because he sent a drone down to grab a sambo from the local sausage sizzle.  I call that innovation.  Government lacks a sense of humour.

Could the drone have the lifting capacity for some beer?
Now that would be useful..

I recon mine would manage a 4 pack
Title: Re: Chesterton Mill Drone footage.
Post by: bikerface on Thursday, 06 September 2018, 09:22 PM
Just been watching some of your channel looks great I subscribed.
Your drone work is incredible love the castle footage!
I recently brought a Phantom 2 with gimbal for not alot of money, needed some TLC though hopefully will get some footage with it soon but no FPV
Title: Re: Chesterton Mill Drone footage.
Post by: Proteous on Friday, 07 September 2018, 01:24 PM
Thanks, i have some new footage to post up of Stormin the castle when i get some spare time.
Title: Re: Chesterton Mill Drone footage.
Post by: VladTepes on Monday, 08 October 2018, 01:11 PM
Jay how do you monitor the image live as you fly?
Title: Re: Chesterton Mill Drone footage.
Post by: Proteous on Tuesday, 09 October 2018, 01:47 AM
Phone/tablet/ipad plugged into the remote shows live video as you fly.
Title: Re: Chesterton Mill Drone footage.
Post by: VladTepes on Tuesday, 30 October 2018, 12:40 PM
@Proteous I mean what do YOU use?

I'm keen on the idea of getting a tablet (and appropriate mount of course) but...

A bloke on a forum said he runs an ipad mini in a mav mount, I'd like something a tad bigger, but my main problem is that it has to be compatible with the Go 4 app, have a decent processor and (here's the rub) be inexpensive.

I think a Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 would be good enough but that's not as inexpensive as I'd like.

I have a Lenovo laptop and like it a lot but have heard of the lenovo tab being problematic with the DJI app... not sure which particular model Lenovo or Android version that was though...

While DJI have a list of supported phones on their site there is no such list for tablets.
Title: Re: Chesterton Mill Drone footage.
Post by: Proteous on Wednesday, 31 October 2018, 12:39 AM
I have tried many Android tablets (by many i mean 4) and all of them proved to be shite. One was Lenovo one was Samsung one was a Huawai Mediatab and the last was an acer. I hated all of them. Video lag was an issue on all 4 a couple of them were just shite in the sunlight while 2 were excelent in that regard. ( all this time i have been using my phone a HTC U11 which is fantastic.) I really need a bigger screen than my phone though.. So i borrowed a friends Ipad and it was perfect as far as video goes. just as good as my phone and just as responsive. Downside was that while not as bad as some of the other tabs, the daytime viewing wasnt great but a shrowd soon fixed that... So long story short i am currently just about to do something i said i never would and i am buying an Ipad 9.7 2018 gen 6 i believe. £320 new. More money than i ever wanted to spend on a tablet but since i cant find an android one that suits i am just taking the hit and getting the ipad...

I have a tablet mount that slides into the remote and it sits above the remote. I should have it by the weekend.
Title: Re: Chesterton Mill Drone footage.
Post by: VladTepes on Wednesday, 31 October 2018, 02:12 PM
I don't suppose one of the tablets you tried was a Samsung Galaxy Tab A ?

I REALLY can't afford an ipad, least of all a new one.  Even harder to justify if needs a shroud as well...

Having an ipad brings up another issue (for me) of course.
Would have to get the apps for iOS and Android, depending whether using phone or tablet at the time.
(as I have, and am sticking with, an Android phone.

This isn't really a problem for DJI Go 4 app (probably, maybe) but would be for Litchi (a paid app).

Comments I have seen on various forums do tend to indicate that DJI Go 4 app is much more stable on iOS platform than it is for Android.
Title: Re: Chesterton Mill Drone footage.
Post by: VladTepes on Wednesday, 31 October 2018, 02:25 PM
Quote from: Proteous on Wednesday, 31 October  2018, 12:39 AM
i am buying an Ipad 9.7 2018 gen 6 i believe. £320 new. More money than i ever wanted to spend on a tablet but since i cant find an android one that suits i am just taking the hit and getting the ipad...

Ok I managed to find that locally.  Which particular model did you get? (32 or 128Gb / wifi only or wifi + cellular)
A base wifi only with 32Gb storage sells here for AUD $469 = £262
whereas the wifi + celluar, with 128Gb sells for AUD $799  = £476
and whether 'Apple Care' is worth another hundred bucks is anyone's guess.


I'm considering an iPAD mini as at 7.9" its the biggest that will fit the controller, and is still substantially larger screen size than my 5.7" Note 5 phone. And there's one on ebay 64Gb with wifi and 4G.  Second hand but evidently in good nick. Might go for around the $300 mark.


Quote from: Proteous on Wednesday, 31 October  2018, 12:39 AM
I have a tablet mount that slides into the remote and it sits above the remote. I should have it by the weekend.

Did you get a mavmount (https://www.mavmount.com/) ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJqC-yIqNNs
Title: Re: Chesterton Mill Drone footage.
Post by: Globalrider on Thursday, 01 November 2018, 03:51 AM
Just bought a Spark to learn on!
:hat:
Stan
Title: Re: Chesterton Mill Drone footage.
Post by: Proteous on Thursday, 01 November 2018, 10:58 PM
OK i ended up with this iPad 2018 6th Gen 9.7 Inch Wi-Fi 32GB- Space Grey. No cellular as i will hotspot from my phone for maps. And if i find i need one i will purchase a Garmin GLO bluetooth GPS module but i dont think i will need it.  I dont need more than 32gig storage either.
My mount is very similar to the mavmount yes.

So after i quick test today the whole setup is floorless. No video lag at all. The drone apps i use like UAV forcast and drone assist can stay on my phone all i need on the iPad is the DJI GO 4 app. I dont and wont use Litchi, dont see the point specially considering the cost of it.

I am an avid Android fan. BUT i am glad i went down the iPad route for the drone.
Title: Re: Chesterton Mill Drone footage.
Post by: VladTepes on Saturday, 03 November 2018, 03:03 PM
Thanks. As much as I'd like that set up its probably too expensive (so I'm bidding on a ipad 3 mini.. we'll see).

With your new iPAD why would you not needd >32Gb.  My 32Gb phone is full all the bloody time so assume thats not really a lot of storage when it comes down to it?

Also can tethering give you the maps? Does it therefore need to be constantly tethered to the phone? In which case that's 2 devices going flat....?


What brand is your tablet mount, as is it a good one?

Oh and did you get a hood? If so where from?

Cheers mate
Title: Re: Chesterton Mill Drone footage.
Post by: Proteous on Sunday, 04 November 2018, 12:08 AM
Unless your storing thousands of music tracks how are you filling up 32 gig?!?!?! I barely scrape the surface on my phones storage. a few gig for music and a few gic for picks. I have enought space to increase my drone cache to 16gig and still have left over space.... What on earth are you doing????

The iPad will never have music on it so its entire storage will go to drone cache and images.

Havnt bothered with the hood yet as we have no sun at present but they are only 10quid off amazon or ebay.

Tethering gives maps as it gets them from internet (uses next to zero extra battery for the phone) It doesnt help with GPS position though. So it relies on the drones own GPS system which means you cant update GPS position while in flight and RTH will return to its take off point. Which isnt an issue for me.

As for my tablet holder... https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B071XP2MJ1/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

By the way, you dont need the maps at all, the radar system works very well with out the maps.  Sure its a nice touch but by no means important.
Title: Re: Chesterton Mill Drone footage.
Post by: VladTepes on Monday, 05 November 2018, 12:02 PM
Thanks - place I looked (mavmount) while very good has the mounts at $60 and hoods antlike $40ish? USD Crazy !

I hope that's a good, quality mount you have, coz Ijust ordered one :)

It's $60 Aussiebucks for the one you have. So, more than your price + exchange rate. And Amazon UK won't post to Aussie we need to use their local outlet apparently (higher prices).Pricks.

You got a link to a suitable hood?


and while we're at it.. what SD card (specifically) do you use? There is a lot of argument on the net as to size, speed etc but as you have some experience you may be able to shed some light on this for me.




Radar?



I might fill up the phone memory as I've got the phone camera at max settings, have never bothered changing it. Probably overkill. No music on there, some audiobooks but not much. I tend NOT to use cloud storage (stupid excess data charges).

Might have to dig around to see what's taking up all the space.  Apps I suspect.
Title: Re: Chesterton Mill Drone footage.
Post by: Proteous on Tuesday, 06 November 2018, 12:05 AM
This is the hood i have been looking at:- https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0779R636C/?coliid=I210RK7BST2FK5&colid=UJ8D4QOG6J4H&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

I have 2 DJI branded 16gig Micro SD cards but i also have a samsung class 10 64gig micro SD i use too. I have never had a problem with any of them. I use samsung 64's for my gopro too. These:- https://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Grade-Class-Memory-Adapter/dp/B00J29FF4G/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1541426088&sr=8-8&keywords=samsung+evo+micro+sd+card
And these:- https://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Mobile-UK-MicroSD-Adapter/dp/B06XFWPXYD/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1541426425&sr=8-3&keywords=samsung+evo+micro+sd+card

I will take some screen captures when i get chance for you.
Title: Re: Chesterton Mill Drone footage.
Post by: Proteous on Tuesday, 06 November 2018, 06:37 AM
This radar.
Title: Re: Chesterton Mill Drone footage.
Post by: ARH on Tuesday, 06 November 2018, 07:55 AM
This is all way too 'tech' for me  :whatever:
Title: Re: Chesterton Mill Drone footage.
Post by: VladTepes on Wednesday, 07 November 2018, 11:30 AM
But the drone doesn't have 'radar' fitted so what is that feed from ?

Well I bought an ipad 6 yesterday and today got a screen protector and a case for it when not in use on the drone remote. $$$ but should be future proof for quite a few years !

(edit: 4/12 bought a sunshade for it too)

Discussion on the various forums seems to point to more and more expensive SD cards...however some are significantly higher spec than the write speed of the drone so you do wonder what goes on in people's heads...

A mate has offered to lend me a 64Gb card so I'll see how that goes (whatever kind it is).

If/when I need to buy one - We don't seem to have Samsung cards readily available here; Sandisk is the way to go I think.  https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B07FCMBLV6/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A4XRJ8S0WXSO0&psc=1


Do you film in 1080 or 4K? How many minutes of footage can you get on a 16Gb card?

Title: Re: Chesterton Mill Drone footage.
Post by: Proteous on Thursday, 08 November 2018, 07:31 AM
I always shoot in 4k and put it this way... i have never ever run out of space on a session .... ever...
i have 4 batteries so thats 2 hours flight time there abouts.. but of coarse i dont record every second... soooooooo.. i will leave that to you to decide..
Title: Re: Chesterton Mill Drone footage.
Post by: VladTepes on Monday, 03 December 2018, 10:59 AM
@Proteous another question if you please.

My remote battery drains quickly and I think its due to using the stock USB / charging cable which came with the ipad.
Seems perhaps the controller is charging the ipad and thus losing juice itself.

Did you need to buy a special OTG cable?
Title: Re: Chesterton Mill Drone footage.
Post by: Proteous on Monday, 03 December 2018, 11:28 PM
I use this.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Olize-Lightning-11-4inch-Braided-Connector/dp/B074SH4HF1/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1543843570&sr=8-6&keywords=micro+usb+to+lightning
Title: Re: Chesterton Mill Drone footage.
Post by: VladTepes on Tuesday, 04 December 2018, 08:39 AM
@Proteous

Yeah that looks just like what I need. So it actually goes to the side port on the controller, not the full size USB?
So have to unplug it from the controller whenever need to charge the remote? That sounds annoying.

Can't find anything like that locally anyway. Only ex-UK.

$28AUD by the time I get one here, with 10% tax on import.
Thieves.

( cheapest is via ebay here (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Olize-Micro-USB-to-Lightning-Data-Cable-11-4inch-Nylon-Braided-Reverse-Connector/192712239031?epid=4021077328&hash=item2cde8b67b7:g:sUQAAOSwRBVb3svq:rk:1:pf:0) )

Can't seem to get it cheaper anywhere.

Title: Re: Chesterton Mill Drone footage.
Post by: Proteous on Tuesday, 04 December 2018, 08:57 PM
It is a rare old cable that one. Not hard to get here though. Its just a micro usb to lightning cable.