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Technically Speaking => Exhausts => Topic started by: PWM on Thursday, 10 May 2018, 12:25 AM

Title: yoshi cyclone
Post by: PWM on Thursday, 10 May 2018, 12:25 AM

Ok, I'm loathe to mess about with exhaust pulses, because i want things to run perfectly, and I'm really not down with these shitty stubby exhausts that choke bikes up - but that yoshi cyclone 4:1 just doesn't rip it up quite enough for me. I want to hear those pops and bangs, and I want it to sound more like my k6 1000.

So, has anyone chopped down a full system, and was it ok or did it suck?

Getting a replacement sleeve is tuff going.. PJ only sell one that is either 110 or 114mm. I need 112. Either way it's a do or die decision - cut the original down, or buy an oversized carbon one and weld shim onto the couplings.
Title: Re: yoshi cyclone
Post by: KiwiCol on Thursday, 10 May 2018, 02:53 AM
If you want to hear the 'pops & bangs' through the exhaust, make sure you've still got the pairs system installed / enabled.  Most guys either remove it or disable it to get rid of said 'pops & bangs'.  If the bikes 'new to you' it may not be there.
Title: Re: yoshi cyclone
Post by: PWM on Thursday, 10 May 2018, 03:27 AM
Quote from: KiwiCol on Thursday, 10 May  2018, 02:53 AM
If you want to hear the 'pops & bangs' through the exhaust, make sure you've still got the pairs system installed / enabled.  Most guys either remove it or disable it to get rid of said 'pops & bangs'.  If the bikes 'new to you' it may not be there.


Bike dismantled and put back together by me when I got it. PAIR system intact. But with a 4 metre silencer, you can't hear all of those natural sounds.
Title: Re: yoshi cyclone
Post by: KiwiCol on Thursday, 10 May 2018, 03:36 AM
Delkevic 30cm carbon is what ya need mate, sounds great but not too noisy. Def gives the bike a bit of 'attitude'
Title: Re: yoshi cyclone
Post by: PWM on Thursday, 10 May 2018, 03:54 AM
Quote from: KiwiCol on Thursday, 10 May  2018, 03:36 AM
Delkevic 30cm carbon is what ya need mate, sounds great but not too noisy. Def gives the bike a bit of 'attitude'


Curiously enough, mr Kiwi, I have just that piece of junk right here under my studio bench, that I use as a nice comfy rocking footrest....

(https://image.ibb.co/gzutvd/IMG_7386.jpg)
Title: Re: yoshi cyclone
Post by: ARH on Thursday, 10 May 2018, 06:24 AM
PWM... bit of a rocker as well then?  I noticed the guitar in one of your other posts... and when you mention studio..... well my interest picks up. 
Title: Re: yoshi cyclone
Post by: KiwiCol on Thursday, 10 May 2018, 08:10 AM
You got the bazooka fitted back on then? (4m silencer)

Why would you think a short can would choke up the thing?  Delkevic are basically straight through pipe with a bit of insulation round the edge. 35cm carbon job looks & sounds good (IMO), not half strangled & gagged.
Title: Re: yoshi cyclone
Post by: PWM on Thursday, 10 May 2018, 09:13 PM
Quote from: KiwiCol on Thursday, 10 May  2018, 08:10 AM
You got the bazooka fitted back on then? (4m silencer)

Why would you think a short can would choke up the thing?  Delkevic are basically straight through pipe with a bit of insulation round the edge. 35cm carbon job looks & sounds good (IMO), not half strangled & gagged.

No oem bazooka, full yoshi cyclone system - non separable can @ around 550mm.

And I'm old enough now to know better, having butchered a few bikes in my life, that these silly stubby cans ( delkevic, Sp engineering and the like ) either make an ungainly racket and suck the life out of the power, or with a baffle, stop the bike breathing. I've done enough on/off during dyno's to see the difference. Our bikes ( or other muscle equivalents ) just don't rev, and they need a little bit of backpressure and can length for the exhaust pulses to work right, for half decent performance.

Anyway i've bought myself a carbon sleeve - few welding modifications and I'll start at 450mm and give myself a stop point of 350mm.  Post a vid when it's done

But as the point of the post was going, i kinda just wondered if anyone else had chopped one of these systems down and did they find it detrimental.




Title: Re: yoshi cyclone
Post by: PWM on Thursday, 10 May 2018, 09:20 PM
Quote from: ARH on Thursday, 10 May  2018, 06:24 AM
PWM... bit of a rocker as well then?  I noticed the guitar in one of your other posts... and when you mention studio..... well my interest picks up.

I am, Mr. ARH..  nothing makes me happier than giving the bike a fistful listening to W.A.S.P Harder Faster through amplified headphones in my lid.

Been playing about 30 of my 50 years, own more guitars ( and synths ) than I do pairs of trousers...  A few hotrotted Les Pauls, 5 Ibanez RG's, Martin D15m & D28 acoustics, Ovation composite, Strat plus deluxe, Jackson Soloist SL2, a swamp ash special, Virus Ti2, few Korgs, Vsynth GT.... more stomp boxed than I know what do do with..........    All valve amps ...endless amounts of gear in here...    You?
Title: Re: yoshi cyclone
Post by: ARH on Thursday, 10 May 2018, 10:47 PM
Quote from: PWM on Thursday, 10 May  2018, 09:20 PM
Quote from: ARH on Thursday, 10 May  2018, 06:24 AM
PWM... bit of a rocker as well then?  I noticed the guitar in one of your other posts... and when you mention studio..... well my interest picks up.

I am, Mr. ARH..  nothing makes me happier than giving the bike a fistful listening to W.A.S.P Harder Faster through amplified headphones in my lid.

Been playing about 30 of my 50 years, own more guitars ( and synths ) than I do pairs of trousers...  A few hotrotted Les Pauls, 5 Ibanez RG's, Martin D15m & D28 acoustics, Ovation composite, Strat plus deluxe, Jackson Soloist SL2, a swamp ash special, Virus Ti2, few Korgs, Vsynth GT.... more stomp boxed than I know what do do with..........    All valve amps ...endless amounts of gear in here...    You?

Yep... but Im a bass player  :cool:   Fender Jazz and a couple of custom fretless jobs I had built way back when.  Also have Fender acoustics... fancied the Martin D28 but she indoors said no ;-).   Been trying to get back into writing and recording recently  (without a lot of success I might add!) - using Ableton...its a far cry from my days in a studio using tape and 64 track mixers!  :rofl2:

You'll be sad to see LP going bust then...
Title: Re: yoshi cyclone
Post by: PWM on Thursday, 10 May 2018, 11:13 PM
Quote from: ARH on Thursday, 10 May  2018, 10:47 PM
Quote from: PWM on Thursday, 10 May  2018, 09:20 PM
Quote from: ARH on Thursday, 10 May  2018, 06:24 AM
PWM... bit of a rocker as well then?  I noticed the guitar in one of your other posts... and when you mention studio..... well my interest picks up.

I am, Mr. ARH..  nothing makes me happier than giving the bike a fistful listening to W.A.S.P Harder Faster through amplified headphones in my lid.

Been playing about 30 of my 50 years, own more guitars ( and synths ) than I do pairs of trousers...  A few hotrotted Les Pauls, 5 Ibanez RG's, Martin D15m & D28 acoustics, Ovation composite, Strat plus deluxe, Jackson Soloist SL2, a swamp ash special, Virus Ti2, few Korgs, Vsynth GT.... more stomp boxed than I know what do do with..........    All valve amps ...endless amounts of gear in here...    You?

Yep... but Im a bass player  :cool:   Fender Jazz and a couple of custom fretless jobs I had built way back when.  Also have Fender acoustics... fancied the Martin D28 but she indoors said no ;-).   Been trying to get back into writing and recording recently  (without a lot of success I might add!) - using Ableton...its a far cry from my days in a studio using tape and 64 track mixers!  :rofl2:

You'll be sad to see LP going bust then...

We all need bass players, we'd not be able to keep time otherwise! And some bass players make phenomenal front men - Phil Lynott, Geddy Lee... ( both gods of rock )

Yeah, Gibson, I think they've cut their own throats really, how the fukk do you get to be 500 million in debt ! I love Les Pauls, truly, when you hold them, something other-worldy happens. It will be sad to see the demise of Gibson - but hey, I'll not be without one or two for the remainder of my life.

Nowadays, I'm a logic pro man, but I've tinkered with it all. I can't get on with ableton, although I do route the Arturia step sequencer through it sometimes for drum stuff.

It's a pity you say 'without a lot of success'....  most-times, you just gotta have a story you want to tell. Maybe you ain't got any stories at the moment?
Title: Re: yoshi cyclone
Post by: ARH on Friday, 11 May 2018, 12:17 AM
PWM... stories not so much an issue, but my apparent inability to get to grips with a very different technology is another story!  :rofl2: :rofl2:

Guess we shouldn't hijack an exhaust thread any longer - admin will be along shortly  :happy1:
Title: Re: yoshi cyclone
Post by: PWM on Friday, 11 May 2018, 01:28 AM
Quote from: ARH on Friday, 11 May  2018, 12:17 AM
PWM... stories not so much an issue, but my apparent inability to get to grips with a very different technology is another story!  :rofl2: :rofl2:

Guess we shouldn't hijack an exhaust thread any longer - admin will be along shortly  :happy1:

I shall not apologise! Guitars are even more important than motorbikes!  :devil:

Anyway bud, perhaps you need to shift to some different tech ! And good luck with it  :onya: