Hi Guys n Gals
I get a newsletter from MCI every now and then and this morning ive got info on the Clean Air thing in France. Certain Cities you HAVE to apply and display a sticker - car or Bike.. list of Cities / towns included as well as how to apply. Spend a few quid - avoid on the spot fine...
Info....
You will probably have seen that the French government (bless them) have launched a scheme for all cars and motorcycles driving in many cities and some regions (https://www.crit-air.fr/en/information-about-the-critair-vignette/french-environmental-zones-zcr/french-environmental-zones.html?utm_source=MCi+Tours+Newsletter+April+2018&utm_campaign=MCi+February+Newsletter&utm_medium=email ) to confess to their dirty sins. This includes British registered vehicles, so your car or motorcycle needs to display an emissions sticker which relates to the age and cleanliness of your vehicle.
If your vehicle does not display the sticker you could face an on the spot fine. The anti-pollution sticker only costs €3.11 plus the cost of postage, and can be ordered on-line from the official Crit'Air website. https://www.certificat-air.gouv.fr/en/?utm_source=MCi+Tours+Newsletter+April+2018&utm_campaign=MCi+February+Newsletter&utm_medium=email Given the low cost it seems sensible to acquire one of these just in case you stray into one of these zones, and I have just bought on myself.
At the moment this costs the same no matter what the age or fuel consumption of your vehicle, although interestingly if your vehicle is old enough it does NOT need one.
nothing like that where i live, yet.
I wasn't planning on going to France in the near future and now won't be bothering them ever .You'll soon need a trailer to take all the crap they want you to have with you .
Not for me
:cheers:
Just got mine for when I travel down to Switzerland in a few weeks - only costs pence so a bit of a no brainer. Dead easy to apply, and comes through real quick
You also need EU approved gloves now as well Stoli....(EU tag must still be affixed)
It's only a ploy to keep you scruffy lot out. :stir:
Quote from: Stolichnaya on Friday, 13 April 2018, 05:58 PM
At the moment this costs the same no matter what the age or fuel consumption of your vehicle, although interestingly if your vehicle is old enough it does NOT need one.
I'm going on a tour with a group to Spain and France at the end of June. Most of the group have applied for the Permit and they have been accepted.
However, one rider has tried to register his Motor Guzzi California registered in 1997 and it will not accept his application. He found some reference noting bikes pre 1972 are exempt, but that doesn't cover the years in between. Confusing.
Has anyone had a similar problem and managed to resolve it?
Any advice appreciated.
Thanks
Mikey
Frogshire only exists to make the good bits of europe further away, this is more proof of that.
Unless you are going through or into the cities where Crit-Air is a requirement - then in all honesty I wouldn't bother as it's not going to change in the next couple of weeks.
Basically the cities with Crit-Air are (at present (June 2018)):
- Paris
- Lyon
- Grenoble
- Lille
- Strasbourg
- Toulouse
- Chambery
- Marseille
More info here on https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/news/motoring-news/law-change-for-uk-drivers-in-french-cities/
Quote from: Hooli on Tuesday, 19 June 2018, 12:35 AM
Frogshire only exists to make the good bits of europe further away, this is more proof of that.
Really? For wanting clean air in the cities? Simple answer, go to London instead, I believe you could enjoy some seriously nice air quality there. :jack:
Marseille? As well as this certificate you need an Algerian or at least North African passport, no? ;)
Quote from: lil4399 on Tuesday, 19 June 2018, 05:33 AM
Quote from: Hooli on Tuesday, 19 June 2018, 12:35 AM
Frogshire only exists to make the good bits of europe further away, this is more proof of that.
Really? For wanting clean air in the cities? Simple answer, go to London instead, I believe you could enjoy some seriously nice air quality there. :jack:
I wouldn't go to london either!
I say that as I've never been anywhere in frogshire that the frogs were grumpy arses, never had that issue with any other country in europe.
Quote from: Hooli on Tuesday, 19 June 2018, 07:20 PM
Quote from: lil4399 on Tuesday, 19 June 2018, 05:33 AM
Quote from: Hooli on Tuesday, 19 June 2018, 12:35 AM
Frogshire only exists to make the good bits of europe further away, this is more proof of that.
Really? For wanting clean air in the cities? Simple answer, go to London instead, I believe you could enjoy some seriously nice air quality there. :jack:
I wouldn't go to london either!
I say that as I've never been anywhere in frogshire that the frogs were grumpy arses, never had that issue with any other country in europe.
I've found some people to be pretty rude in Paris, but everywhere else I've been in France the people have been generally great, no problems at all. They even tolerate my terrible attempts at speaking their language, before switching to English and digging me out of a hole.
To be honest you can find grumpy people anywhere.
To be honest you can find grumpy people anywhere.
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Hooli - You never said a truer word! :cheers:
I have to say that the Ducati dealership in Reims were brilliant on my recent trip to Switzerland - guy who came with us on a Multistrada needed a new rear tyre due to a puncture near the wall - rang them up late on a Saturday and they stayed open for us until we got there (past their normal closing time), changed his rear tyre and checked the rest of the bike over - and didn't charge a penny extra.
Quote from: Hooli on Tuesday, 19 June 2018, 07:20 PM
Quote from: lil4399 on Tuesday, 19 June 2018, 05:33 AM
Quote from: Hooli on Tuesday, 19 June 2018, 12:35 AM
Frogshire only exists to make the good bits of europe further away, this is more proof of that.
Really? For wanting clean air in the cities? Simple answer, go to London instead, I believe you could enjoy some seriously nice air quality there. :jack:
I wouldn't go to london either!
I say that as I've never been anywhere in frogshire that the frogs were grumpy arses, never had that issue with any other country in europe.
The French treat people the way they are treated, your reference to them as frogs shows how you see them and don't like them giving it you back.
Grumpy or not..... cultural diversity is what makes this planet we all share, tick. Sorry if this is being a bit outspoken, but I have low tolerance for bigotry of any kind. If you really want to see grumpy... talk to a Viennese resident when the tram is 1 minute late... they bring grumpiness to a whole new level that honestly makes me smile...
Live and let live guys... live and let live. :cheers:
I developed that attitude after a few visits across the channel. I've given up with them now so the only thing I stop for in frogshire is petrol so I can get out the place ASAP.
Quote from: Hooli on Wednesday, 20 June 2018, 07:47 AM
I developed that attitude after a few visits across the channel. I've given up with them now so the only thing I stop for in frogshire is petrol so I can get out the place ASAP.
A couple of years back we were on holiday in France, two families so there were eight of us. We went out to a bar/restaurant one night and had a great time, but we couldn't get a taxi home due to the late hour and the rural location.
Seeing our situation, the bar owner rounded up a bunch of customers and they took us all home in a convoy of 3 cars. It was miles out of their way I'm sure, but nobody seemed to mind at all. I was really touched by their hospitality and they wouldn't even accept petrol money.
I travel a lot and to be honest I find there are good and bad people wherever you go.
*shrugs* I must only meet the 'good' ones.
Quote from: Mister Fishfinger on Wednesday, 20 June 2018, 07:06 PM
Quote from: Hooli on Wednesday, 20 June 2018, 07:47 AM
I developed that attitude after a few visits across the channel. I've given up with them now so the only thing I stop for in frogshire is petrol so I can get out the place ASAP.
A couple of years back we were on holiday in France, two families so there were eight of us. We went out to a bar/restaurant one night and had a great time, but we couldn't get a taxi home due to the late hour and the rural location.
Seeing our situation, the bar owner rounded up a bunch of customers and they took us all home in a convoy of 3 cars. It was miles out of their way I'm sure, but nobody seemed to mind at all. I was really touched by their hospitality and they wouldn't even accept petrol money.
I travel a lot and to be honest I find there are good and bad people wherever you go.
I have lived here for 3 years, for decades before that always had a summer and winter holiday here and only once have I met a French Muppet, hence my choice to be retired here. Don't get me wrong, I meet or see idiots quite often, all British who refer to themselves as "ex pats" not immigrants like the rest of us. Does this mean ALL Brits everywhere are idiots? It would be easy to take that view but having lived and worked in the UK I know some wonderful Brits so like you Fishy, I accept there are good and bad everywhere. :onya:
TBH most Brits abroad are idiots...
Quote from: Hooli on Wednesday, 20 June 2018, 07:41 PM
TBH most Brits abroad are idiots...
Well, everyone is entitled to an opinion. :facepalm:
I'll reserve mine for the sake of the forum.
Ok, I'm now locking this topic, I think enough has been said