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Title: Clutch Seal Upgrade
Post by: gsxbarmy on Sunday, 05 February 2017, 11:37 PM
Clutch Seal Upgrade

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I've added a clutch slave seal from a Hayabusa to my 1400, it was a part from a later model busa which could be retro fitted to the earlier models. I had a spare so I fitted it to my 1400 K3 when I added the new chain and sprockets. I can't find any microfiche pictures to show, I'm not sure if Suzuki fit it to the later 1400 models either. What I do know is it stops chain lube getting through the slave cylinder seal and contaminating the fluid, my clutch reservoir on my 1400 was full of the stuff when I bought the bike.  Here’s the relevant part......

I fitted it between the slave cylinder and the metal (tin) guard that goes on the inside of the sprocket cover, the pushrod goes through the seal, and a good dollop of red rubber grease seals the clutch slave once and for all once this additional seal is in situ.

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Title: Re: Clutch Seal Upgrade
Post by: Andre on Friday, 15 September 2017, 05:16 PM
Here is a list of the bikes it is officially fitted. https://www.bike-parts-suz.com/microfiches-s_recherche_piece.html?recherche2=oui&text_recherche=23166-02F20&image=Search (https://www.bike-parts-suz.com/microfiches-s_recherche_piece.html?recherche2=oui&text_recherche=23166-02F20&image=Search) Then click on "Genuine Spare Parts Catalog" to get to the microfiche.

A handy site to find out all the Suzuki bikes a certain part is for.
Title: Re: Clutch Seal Upgrade
Post by: grog on Friday, 15 September 2017, 06:44 PM
thanks Barmy, i wrote about this a while ago. knew id seen it mentioned but had no idea where to look. will order one. just stops crap leaking along pushrod, great idea.
Title: Re: Clutch Seal Upgrade
Post by: gsxbarmy on Friday, 06 October 2017, 05:16 AM
Worth reading this thread for a bit more info  :onya:

http://gsx1400owners.org/forum/index.php?topic=1840.0
Title: Re: Clutch Seal Upgrade
Post by: froudy on Monday, 02 July 2018, 09:12 PM
Fitted mine yesterday...
Quick and easy to do and well worth it I'd say :onya:
Title: Re: Clutch Seal Upgrade
Post by: KiwiCol on Tuesday, 03 July 2018, 02:57 AM
Done my 2 as well, as ya say, quick n easy.  Messy part is clearing the buildup of chain lube & road grime from the area.  Cleaned & lubed the push rod too.
Title: Re: Clutch Seal Upgrade
Post by: grog on Tuesday, 03 July 2018, 07:02 PM
clean and grease pushrod, oil n grease mix, a must every year i reckon. protect that seal. a major bitch to fix if it leaks. top 5 of things a must.do.
Title: Re: Clutch Seal Upgrade
Post by: Hooli on Tuesday, 03 July 2018, 07:17 PM
Change the fluid every year too, it doesn't like the heat.
Title: Re: Clutch Seal Upgrade
Post by: froudy on Tuesday, 03 July 2018, 09:56 PM
Quote from: grog on Tuesday, 03 July  2018, 07:02 PM
clean and grease pushrod, oil n grease mix, a must every year i reckon. protect that seal. a major bitch to fix if it leaks. top 5 of things a must.do.

My clutch pushrod is ok where it goes into the seal, but outwards is quite corroded. May look into getting stainless item made up at some stage.
Title: Re: Clutch Seal Upgrade
Post by: ARH on Wednesday, 04 July 2018, 12:57 AM
Quote from: froudy on Tuesday, 03 July  2018, 09:56 PM
Quote from: grog on Tuesday, 03 July  2018, 07:02 PM
clean and grease pushrod, oil n grease mix, a must every year i reckon. protect that seal. a major bitch to fix if it leaks. top 5 of things a must.do.

My clutch pushrod is ok where it goes into the seal, but outwards is quite corroded. May look into getting stainless item made up at some stage.

Might be some additional buyers on here for that Froudy!
Title: Re: Clutch Seal Upgrade
Post by: Notty on Wednesday, 04 July 2018, 03:43 AM
Not sure I got the correct seal ?  :)
Title: Re: Clutch Seal Upgrade
Post by: KiwiCol on Wednesday, 04 July 2018, 03:47 AM
Yep, that's the right one Notty.  Sometimes they can be a little tight getting the all edges in, but persevere, it'll go eventually.  :whistling:

Show us a pic once you've got it installed, that'd be good.
Title: Re: Clutch Seal Upgrade
Post by: Notty on Wednesday, 04 July 2018, 04:04 AM
Quote from: KiwiCol on Wednesday, 04 July  2018, 03:47 AM
Yep, that's the right one Notty.  Sometimes they can be a little tight getting the all edges in, but persevere, it'll go eventually.  :whistling:

Show us a pic once you've got it installed, that'd be good.
A blown seal can be quite messy !! :) and illegal?
Title: Re: Clutch Seal Upgrade
Post by: KiwiCol on Wednesday, 04 July 2018, 04:18 AM
I'm not replying directly to that, else Barmy will have me!  But you're right, probably very messy & one for the RSPCA?   :lol:
Title: Re: Clutch Seal Upgrade
Post by: gsxbarmy on Wednesday, 04 July 2018, 06:24 AM
Quote from: KiwiCol on Wednesday, 04 July  2018, 04:18 AM
I'm not replying directly to that, else Barmy will have me!  But you're right, probably very messy & one for the RSPCA?   :lol:

:rulez:  :lol:
Title: Re: Clutch Seal Upgrade
Post by: KiwiCol on Wednesday, 04 July 2018, 08:03 AM
See what you done now Notty?   Barmy is gonna throw the book at us!  :happy1:
Title: Re: Clutch Seal Upgrade
Post by: Notty on Wednesday, 04 July 2018, 04:01 PM
Quote from: KiwiCol on Wednesday, 04 July  2018, 08:03 AM
See what you done now Notty?   Barmy is gonna throw the book at us!  :happy1:
best  only fit the one seal and not do the mod then Col?  :)
Title: Re: Clutch Seal Upgrade
Post by: KiwiCol on Wednesday, 04 July 2018, 04:33 PM
You'll give it to Froudy to do won't ya?
Title: Re: Clutch Seal Upgrade
Post by: Mick_J on Wednesday, 04 July 2018, 07:05 PM
Quote from: KiwiCol on Wednesday, 04 July  2018, 04:33 PM
You'll give it to Froudy to do won't ya?

Why have a dog and bark yourself  :whistling:
Title: Re: Clutch Seal Upgrade
Post by: grog on Wednesday, 04 July 2018, 07:08 PM
stainless rod, seems a good idea. never seen mentioned ever b4. keep us informed.
Title: Re: Clutch Seal Upgrade
Post by: Hooli on Wednesday, 04 July 2018, 09:08 PM
Quote from: KiwiCol on Wednesday, 04 July  2018, 04:18 AM
I'm not replying directly to that, else Barmy will have me!  But you're right, probably very messy & one for the RSPCA?   :lol:

something something Welshman said to an Eskimo something something but you shag sheep!
Title: Re: Clutch Seal Upgrade
Post by: gsxbarmy on Wednesday, 04 July 2018, 11:57 PM
Quote from: Hooli on Wednesday, 04 July  2018, 09:08 PM
Quote from: KiwiCol on Wednesday, 04 July  2018, 04:18 AM
I'm not replying directly to that, else Barmy will have me!  But you're right, probably very messy & one for the RSPCA?   :lol:

something something Welshman said to an Eskimo something something but you shag sheep!

:redcard:  :lol:
Title: Re: Clutch Seal Upgrade
Post by: SheepDog on Friday, 14 June 2019, 04:35 PM

Completed this the other day without any problems. I have found changing through the gears (1 to 6) smoother and quieter. The initial neutral to first is always a dandy regardless. Just Suzuki.
I had previously stripped clean the clutch and rod and replaced fluids.
Also running Syn-X 3000 oil which is semi synthetic which really helps.
Overall I can feel the difference and hoping my fluid stays a little clearer.  :onya:
Anyway, the dust seal can't hurt it.
Title: Re: Clutch Seal Upgrade
Post by: Tally on Thursday, 24 September 2020, 11:17 PM
I have just ordered the clutch seal upgrade for my bike as I'm changing the fluid this weekend and I will clean up the pushrod as par for the course. My question is does the rod just pull out when the fluid has been drained, and pushes back in before you refill the system, or is there any special technique I don't know about.????? :confused1:
Title: Re: Clutch Seal Upgrade
Post by: Eric GSX1400K3 on Friday, 25 September 2020, 12:03 AM
Quote from: Tally on Thursday, 24 September  2020, 11:17 PM
I have just ordered the clutch seal upgrade for my bike as I'm changing the fluid this weekend and I will clean up the pushrod as par for the course. My question is does the rod just pull out when the fluid has been drained, and pushes back in before you refill the system, or is there any special technique I don't know about.????? :confused1:

Yep, rod just slides out, just be careful not to get crud inside behind the engine seal, as it's a PITA to change out (read engine strip).  The Hyabusa slave dust seal retrofit is a great mod and keeps it nice and clean.