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Title: defeat by "scummy Irish"
Post by: Notty on Sunday, 18 March 2018, 05:04 AM
It always comes back and bites you on the bum

At a sponsors' talk in July 2017, the Australian described Wales as a "shit little place" and spoke about how disappointed he was by a recent defeat by the "scummy Irish".
Jones, 58, said he was "very sorry for any offence caused" and added: "No excuses. I shouldn't have said what I did."
A spokesperson for English rugby union's governing body said the remarks were "inappropriate" and the RFU would apologise to its counterparts in Ireland and Wales.
Referring to their 13-9 defeat by the same opponents in the 2017 Six Nations, Jones said: "We've played 23 Tests, we've only lost one Test to the scummy Irish.

"I am still dirty about that game. We'll get that back, we'll get that back don't worry. We've got them next year at home, we'll get them back."
The video of Jones' talk was uploaded to YouTube by Japanese company Fuso in July last year, but has only now gained wider public attention.
Jones, who became Japan head coach in 2012, discussed Japan Under-20s losing to their Welsh counterparts 125-0 shortly after he took over, and was comparing the population size of the respective nations to their rugby pedigree.

"Who knows Wales? Are there any Welsh people here? So it's this little shit place that has got three million people. Three million!" he said.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/43409476
Title: Re: defeat by "scummy Irish"
Post by: shanered6 on Sunday, 18 March 2018, 05:58 AM
cheeky b*****d  and he has the surname Jones as well little shit  :jack:
Title: Re: defeat by "scummy Irish"
Post by: lil4399 on Sunday, 18 March 2018, 05:59 AM
It's quite funny being a fanatical Welsh Rugby fan. I watch the game today with my French friends.

WE.WERE.BATTERED. but we won. :cheers:

They thought it funny that if you are Welsh, you have a hierarchy of desires:

1. Wales beat England
2. Wales win the grand slam
3. Whoever is playing England, beats them.   :stir:

Stand by for the sparks to fly!   :P
Title: Re: defeat by "scummy Irish"
Post by: Mister Fishfinger on Sunday, 18 March 2018, 06:32 AM
Nice results for both Wales and Ireland, especially nice for Ireland on St Paddy's day.

There was an article in today's Guardian referencing those comments about the Welsh: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/mar/15/anti-welsh-bigotry-eddie-jones-england-brexit

I will save you the trouble of reading it, basically it's saying that anti-Welsh bigotry is still widespread and it shouldn't be OK because you aren't allowed to say that about other nationalities or races. It's a fair point but I don't fully agree with it.

The thing is, I'm Welsh, I grew up there, all my family still live there, but I honestly wasn't bothered by Jones' comments and I don't know anyone who would be. I've said worse about the English in the heat of the moment but I don't really mean it. There are nice some nice people and some horrible people in England, same as everywhere. Comments like this just make me enjoy it more when we win.

There's a big difference between hate speech and just being a bit provocative - and I think I know which one this is.
Title: Re: defeat by "scummy Irish"
Post by: GSXKING on Sunday, 18 March 2018, 08:24 AM
So Ireland has been playing sparkling Rugby all season long. They have always been there about's. I'd be curious to find out what it takes to make that leap to greatness, with winning the Six nations obviously there will be a huge financial reward. Do the players get a share or are they already on huge salaries.
Maybe I'm over thinking it.  :whatever: :whatever: :whatever:
Title: Re: defeat by "scummy Irish"
Post by: kquacker on Sunday, 18 March 2018, 08:56 AM
Nobody here paid much attention to Jones remarks. I believe they were made tongue in cheek.What mattered was that this team delivered a win today as tournament champions and they did. There's a fine line between all the "home nations" teams and it's good to be on the winning end of things for a change.
It's great timing, coming at the end of Cheltenham week & the fact it is St Patrick's day ! Eire Abu.
Title: Re: defeat by "scummy Irish"
Post by: Kiwifruit on Sunday, 18 March 2018, 11:04 AM
Both the Welsh and the Irish have very good coaches. England not so good....... :happy1:
Title: Re: defeat by "scummy Irish"
Post by: Irish in Oz on Sunday, 18 March 2018, 06:25 PM
 :)
Title: Re: defeat by "scummy Irish"
Post by: shanered6 on Sunday, 18 March 2018, 08:11 PM
I agree there's no nastiness in eddy's comments he's just the master at getting in teams heads and stiring things up !
He's well known for it ..... little shit !   :grin:
Title: Re: defeat by "scummy Irish"
Post by: Kiwifruit on Sunday, 18 March 2018, 08:21 PM
Looking forward to the All Blacks playing England later this year.
Do you think there will be any Englishmen in the team?
For starters l'm pretty sure the captain is a Kiwi  :stir: