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General => Bike Chat => Topic started by: Red Biker on Wednesday, 14 February 2018, 06:18 PM

Title: Vanter Black
Post by: Red Biker on Wednesday, 14 February 2018, 06:18 PM
Morning Chaps,
Saw this on the BBC News this morning as one of the buildings at the winter olympics has been coated in it.
Imagine this on a Bike!! its so dark the bike would appear completely flat. Tissue anyone!

The video on the link below shows 2 identical Brass masks, one coated with the vanter Black  :smitten:

Taken from tinterweb:

Vantablack® is a super-black coating that holds the world record as the darkest man-made substance. It was originally developed for satellite-borne blackbody calibration systems, but its unique physical and optical properties have resulted in it finding widespread application. Vantablack is available in two versions, either directly applied to surfaces using vacuum-deposition technology or, in the case of Vantablack S-VIS, by spraying and then post-processing.

Vantablack absorbs virtually all incident light, making it ideally suited to addressing a host of light-suppression and light-management problems. It reflects so little light that it is often described as the closest thing to a black hole we'll ever see. With such exceptionally low levels of reflectance, Vantablack produces some startling optical effects; when it's applied to a three-dimensional object, Vantablack is so black that it becomes extremely difficult to discern any surface features, and three-dimensional objects appear to become two-dimensional.   

In fact, Vantablack absorbs more than just visible light, and is equally-effective across a whole range of the spectrum that is invisible to the human eye.  It is used in applications ranging from space-borne scientific instrumentation to luxury goods, and its ability to deceive the eye opens-up a whole range of possibilities in design.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v0_fID_jvA

Hopefully available in rattle cans next year!
Title: Re: Vanter Black
Post by: seth on Wednesday, 14 February 2018, 06:42 PM
Ask them if they'll paint your bike for you !
Only thing is you might not be able to find it at night or in the garage  :stir:
Title: Re: Vanter Black
Post by: Andre on Wednesday, 14 February 2018, 06:57 PM
Facial application - No need for wearing masks or burkas :whistling:
Title: Re: Vanter Black
Post by: Red Biker on Wednesday, 14 February 2018, 07:20 PM
lol I'd not thought of that Andre!!

I can imagine pipes or part of the engine done would look spectacular Seth, although probably would put a flourescent decal on  :whistling:
Title: Re: Vanter Black
Post by: Mister Fishfinger on Wednesday, 14 February 2018, 07:57 PM
I visited the lab that developed this a few years ago. The work was started at the National Physical Laboratory in Teddington (just on the south west edge of London). The guy showing us round said it was originally developed for NASA to use on satellites, but at the time they hadn't actually deployed it on anything - they were just investigating it in the lab.

The version he showed us was a predecessor of this one but even so it was incredibly black. It's hard to describe until you see it.

I wouldn't get too excited about painting your bike with it yet though. It has to be applied by specially trained contractors using custom built equipment. He didn't mention a price either...

Still, it's good to see something special coming out of the UK.

By the way: they have used the same stuff on a promotional pavilion in Pyongchang for the Winter Olympics:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxkvKJmlyHQ
Title: Re: Vanter Black
Post by: lil4399 on Wednesday, 14 February 2018, 09:49 PM
Just think home much slower your bike would go if you painted with this?   :stir:
Title: Re: Vanter Black
Post by: Red Biker on Wednesday, 14 February 2018, 10:09 PM
Quote from: lil4399 on Wednesday, 14 February  2018, 09:49 PM
Just think home much slower your bike would go if you painted with this?   :stir:

It would help avoid those pesky scorch marks when I slowdown from warp speed  :imrgreen:

ps
the wife says can they make curtains with it  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Vanter Black
Post by: Monarchjock on Wednesday, 14 February 2018, 10:37 PM
I wouldn't want to paint the bike with the stuff. Our visibility to cage drivers is bad enough already.

On the other hand. What will this do for stealth technology?
Title: Re: Vanter Black
Post by: VladTepes on Wednesday, 14 February 2018, 11:23 PM
Hmm absorbs other wavelengths too eh?  I reckon it'd screw up LIDAR then....  :riding:  :nyahnyah:  :police:
Title: Re: Vanter Black
Post by: KiwiCol on Thursday, 15 February 2018, 02:39 PM
It'll be interesting to see what applications this gets used for.   Wonder if you'd be allowed to apply it to mother in laws?  Make them all but vanish.
Title: Re: Vanter Black
Post by: KiwiCol on Thursday, 15 February 2018, 02:48 PM
Answer is No,  had a read up about it on the net. Can't do clothes or people.

Here, have a wee read.
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/06/garden/what-you-can-do-with-vantablack-the-darkest-material-ever-made.html


From article above;
What's special about carbon nanotubes?
­It's almost like an alien material from "Star Trek." Imagine a drinking straw, closed at one end, with a wall one-atom thick. This straw is one-ten-thousandth the diameter of a human hair, but it is 10 times stronger than steel, and 10 times better at conducting heat than copper. It's been known to exhibit what is called "ballistic transport"; electrons travel through it with almost no resistance. Vantablack packs billions of these straws together.

What I did notice in this was, the 'Ballistic Transport' properties of this.  What is also noticeable was the lack of 'blue & white ballistic transport'    :stir:   Guess even the science community recognise how fast this is to name it Ballistic.

@Red Biker
Title: Re: Vanter Black
Post by: Kiwifruit on Thursday, 15 February 2018, 05:21 PM
Quote from: KiwiCol on Thursday, 15 February  2018, 02:39 PM
It'll be interesting to see what applications this gets used for.   Wonder if you'd be allowed to apply it to mother in laws?  Make them all but vanish.


I find them hard to see as it is, hanging upside down from the rafters.  :whistling:
Title: Re: Vanter Black
Post by: Notty on Thursday, 15 February 2018, 06:14 PM
I thought that the speed of light was fastest speed known to man - strangely enough no mention of black as its not a colour in fact RED is the fastest colour !!  :)
Title: Re: Vanter Black
Post by: KiwiCol on Thursday, 15 February 2018, 06:23 PM
Ok, if black isn't a colour (science has conflicting opinions on that) it's a phenomenon for sure, 100%.
Title: Re: Vanter Black
Post by: KiwiCol on Thursday, 15 February 2018, 06:25 PM
Quote from: Notty on Thursday, 15 February  2018, 06:14 PM
I thought that the speed of light was fastest speed known to man - strangely enough no mention of black as its not a colour in fact RED is the fastest colour !!  :)
Nope, a black GSX1400 is, see, you're never too old to learn stuff.  :stir: :happy1: :cheers: :onya: :popcorn:
Title: Re: Vanter Black
Post by: Red Biker on Thursday, 15 February 2018, 06:37 PM
Good work Col, you are the Stephen Hawkings of the GSX world!!

Ballistic only features a couple of times in my world:

1) when riding the Black missile
2) If I'm not back in time for tea after riding the missile  :thumbs_down:

Title: Re: Vanter Black
Post by: KiwiCol on Thursday, 15 February 2018, 06:42 PM
Fecken LOL mate!
Title: Re: Vanter Black
Post by: seth on Thursday, 15 February 2018, 10:23 PM
Quote from: Notty on Thursday, 15 February  2018, 06:14 PM
I thought that the speed of light was fastest speed known to man - strangely enough no mention of black as its not a colour in fact RED is the fastest colour !!  :)

I've said before black must be the fastest colour as it was everywhere before light so even at the speed of light everything in front of you is black .
Title: Re: Vanter Black
Post by: ARH on Friday, 16 February 2018, 03:44 AM
Jeezo Seth.... Black is not a colour.... how many times? :happy1: :stir:
Title: Re: Vanter Black
Post by: seth on Friday, 16 February 2018, 04:01 AM
If black isn't a colour then how can you buy it as spray paint because when you press the top stuff comes out and it covers what ever surface in black .
So if black wasn't a colour you would press the top and nothing would come out and no surface would be covered in anything.

Just saying
:stir:
Title: Re: Vanter Black
Post by: ARH on Friday, 16 February 2018, 05:47 AM
 :facepalm: :facepalm:
Title: Re: Vanter Black
Post by: Notty on Friday, 16 February 2018, 06:30 AM
 :tumble: :tumble: :tumble: :tumble: :tumble:
What makes us happy in life? a BLUE SKY -a YELLOW SUN not black darkness !!!
Title: Re: Vanter Black
Post by: Red Biker on Friday, 16 February 2018, 09:08 PM
Quote from: Notty on Friday, 16 February  2018, 06:30 AM
:tumble: :tumble: :tumble: :tumble: :tumble:
What makes us happy in life? a BLUE SKY -a YELLOW SUN not black darkness !!!

@ Notty
Bat Mobile or Noddy's Car  :confused1:

Title: Re: Vanter Black
Post by: seth on Friday, 16 February 2018, 09:09 PM
Noddy car  :boogie:
Title: Re: Vanter Black
Post by: Notty on Saturday, 17 February 2018, 05:39 AM
Noddy  :boogie:
Title: Re: Vanter Black
Post by: Red Biker on Saturday, 17 February 2018, 05:50 AM
Sheesh! There's no hope  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Vanter Black
Post by: seth on Saturday, 17 February 2018, 05:54 AM
 :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :stir:
Title: Re: Vanter Black
Post by: VladTepes on Sunday, 18 February 2018, 11:02 PM
I have a black bike with red wheels. Both are fast so one is always trying to overtake the other... but not sure which is which!