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Title: Replacement Allen Bolts
Post by: gsxbarmy on Tuesday, 13 February 2018, 07:46 PM
For anyone thinking of changing their 14 to have nice new allen bolts, saw this on eBay this morning, which looks to be decent value for what you get

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/448pcs-Suzuki-GSX1400-01-06-STAINLESS-ENGINE-FRAME-ALLEN-BOLTS-KIT-EXTRAS/231797436487?epid=852051337&hash=item35f8343047:g:wIsAAOSwgQ9Vt38G

Seems to contain most, if not all bolts you may need (can't check as there isn't a complete list of sizes provided)
Title: Re: Replacement Allen Bolts
Post by: froudy on Tuesday, 13 February 2018, 08:18 PM
@gsxbarmy
Hang on a mo.
I got one of these sets a couple of years ago and most of what is included is not used on the GSX1400. Also most of what IS needed isn't included.
I had to contact the seller about the kit and give him with a full list of GSX1400 fittings. He did send me out extra bolts at no cost in the end, but it took a while to get it sorted out..
If he has in fact sorted it, then it's good value for money :onya:
So I'd say "caveat emptor"
Title: Re: Replacement Allen Bolts
Post by: Red Biker on Tuesday, 13 February 2018, 11:21 PM
£10.80 for the 30 piece engine kit here:

http://www.a2stainless.co.uk/Suzuki-GSX1400-Engine-Casings-Stainless-Capscrews-Kit_AJ5RH.aspx

Title: Re: Replacement Allen Bolts
Post by: gsxbarmy on Wednesday, 14 February 2018, 01:06 AM
Quote from: froudy on Tuesday, 13 February  2018, 08:18 PM
@gsxbarmy
Hang on a mo.
I got one of these sets a couple of years ago and most of what is included is not used on the GSX1400. Also most of what IS needed isn't included.
I had to contact the seller about the kit and give him with a full list of GSX1400 fittings. He did send me out extra bolts at no cost in the end, but it took a while to get it sorted out..
If he has in fact sorted it, then it's good value for money :onya:
So I'd say "caveat emptor"

Hmm. Yes I remember that Steve. I wonder. Good call.
Title: Re: Replacement Allen Bolts
Post by: Andre on Wednesday, 14 February 2018, 01:53 AM
I wonder about any low-price offerings (less than 8 cent a piece the one and 30 cent the other).

Slave-work, recovered steel from a nuclear plant, "fallen" of a truck, low quality... :whatever:
Title: Re: Replacement Allen Bolts
Post by: BbigMmac on Wednesday, 17 October 2018, 04:04 PM
Replaced almost all the bolts on my GSX with stainless steel. Started in 2010 when I bought it by taking out each bolt, taking it`s measure and then ordering them all in batches. Had them machined bij a friend. Not as perfect as Pro-Bolt but am satisfied.
Title: Re: Replacement Allen Bolts
Post by: VladTepes on Wednesday, 17 October 2018, 05:19 PM
What machining did your friend have to do, if you ordered the bolts?  :confused1:
Title: Re: Replacement Allen Bolts
Post by: ARH on Wednesday, 17 October 2018, 05:19 PM
I recall replacing all the bolts on my old Honda 400 dream with stainless... and regretting it some years later because the stainless reacted with the Alu casings... a lot of the bolts were seized and took some work getting them back off again.  Has anything changed?  I guess a prodigious use of anti seize would have helped ... I forgot  :whistling:
Title: Re: Replacement Allen Bolts
Post by: BbigMmac on Wednesday, 17 October 2018, 07:22 PM
Quote from: VladTepes on Wednesday, 17 October  2018, 05:19 PM
What machining did your friend have to do, if you ordered the bolts?  :confused1:

The heads are normally strait, he machined an angle one them.
Title: Re: Replacement Allen Bolts
Post by: BbigMmac on Wednesday, 17 October 2018, 07:24 PM
Quote from: ARH on Wednesday, 17 October  2018, 05:19 PM
I recall replacing all the bolts on my old Honda 400 dream with stainless... and regretting it some years later because the stainless reacted with the Alu casings... a lot of the bolts were seized and took some work getting them back off again.  Has anything changed?  I guess a prodigious use of anti seize would have helped ... I forgot  :whistling:

Don`t think that anytthing has changed, haven`t had any problems yet, used a little coppergrease on the threads.
Title: Re: Replacement Allen Bolts
Post by: froudy on Thursday, 18 October 2018, 12:35 AM
I machined nearly every single stainless Allen bolt like that on my Bandit..End result is good :onya:
Title: Re: Replacement Allen Bolts
Post by: BbigMmac on Thursday, 18 October 2018, 12:49 AM
Have replaced almost all on the 1400 also, just a couple more to do this winter.
Title: Re: Replacement Allen Bolts
Post by: grog on Thursday, 18 October 2018, 05:05 PM
Those machined look unreal. Perfect look. Mine arent but not a job i can be bothered to do. Yours are better but im lazy.
Title: Re: Replacement Allen Bolts
Post by: BbigMmac on Thursday, 18 October 2018, 06:51 PM
Thanks for the compliment. It`s a lot of work taking out and measuring all the bolts but like the result. Not lazy...other priorities? :laugh:
Title: Re: Replacement Allen Bolts
Post by: VladTepes on Wednesday, 29 July 2020, 01:22 PM
@BbigMmac  et al

So does anyone have a complete list of the bolts / fasteners etc for the GSX1400 so that we can order these / get them made / whatever?
Title: Re: Replacement Allen Bolts
Post by: GSXKING on Wednesday, 29 July 2020, 08:34 PM
It's quite a nice look. I just couldn't be arsed as SUZUKI did a fabulous job  :stir: :stir: :stir:
Title: Re: Replacement Allen Bolts
Post by: Irish in Oz on Wednesday, 29 July 2020, 10:54 PM
The chamfer means less wind resistance and weight which means better performance and fuel consumption, it's not about looks.
Title: Re: Replacement Allen Bolts
Post by: Hooli on Thursday, 30 July 2020, 12:00 AM
Yeah cause 50g of metal off a 14 will make so much difference.... :lol:
Title: Re: Replacement Allen Bolts
Post by: gsxbarmy on Thursday, 30 July 2020, 02:04 AM
Quote from: VladTepes on Wednesday, 29 July  2020, 01:22 PM
@BbigMmac  et al

So does anyone have a complete list of the bolts / fasteners etc for the GSX1400 so that we can order these / get them made / whatever?

Visible ones anyway https://gsx1400owners.org/forum/index.php?topic=194.0
Title: Re: Replacement Allen Bolts
Post by: Irish in Oz on Thursday, 30 July 2020, 05:10 AM
Quote from: Hooli on Thursday, 30 July  2020, 12:00 AM
Yeah cause 50g of metal off a 14 will make so much difference.... :lol:

It needs all the help it can get being a big slug.
Title: Re: Replacement Allen Bolts
Post by: VladTepes on Thursday, 30 July 2020, 11:06 AM
Quote from: Irish in Oz on Wednesday, 29 July  2020, 10:54 PM
The chamfer means less wind resistance and weight which means better performance and fuel consumption, it's not about looks.

:rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: Yeah ok.  :clapping:  :hat:



@gsxbarmy  thanks for the link  :onya:

Title: Re: Replacement Allen Bolts
Post by: Mick_J on Thursday, 30 July 2020, 06:44 PM
Quote from: Irish in Oz on Thursday, 30 July  2020, 05:10 AM
Quote from: Hooli on Thursday, 30 July  2020, 12:00 AM
Yeah cause 50g of metal off a 14 will make so much difference.... :lol:

It needs all the help it can get being a big slug.

Taking a dump before each ride will have a greater effect.  :whistling:
Title: Re: Replacement Allen Bolts
Post by: KiwiCol on Thursday, 30 July 2020, 07:11 PM
Or eat 1 less pie - sacrilege I know. . .
Title: Re: Replacement Allen Bolts
Post by: grog on Thursday, 30 July 2020, 07:26 PM
I replaced lots of bolts on mine yrs ago. Cant even remember which ones, local shop was very cheap for quality ones. Nothing to do with weight, just better quality. Now, at least they dont burr up, allen key type or hex heads. Not a major thing to do but yeah, happy i did it. Low cost upgrade in my eyes.