The oil cooler leaked, found not much aftermarket oil cooler information. Finally ordered from HEL, find out the core part is made by Setrab. Here's some information for whom may interested.
http://www.setrab.com/products/proline/products/std-oil-cooler/
http://www.setrab.com/products/proline/technical-specifications/std/
http://gsx1400owners.org/forum/index.php?topic=1045.msg10603#msg10603
found this thread replacements for standard but built stronger .
https://www.aaronradiator.co.uk/motorcycle/motorcycle-oil-coolers/suzuki-oil-cooler/suzuki-gsx-oil-cooler/
:cheers:
had read that thread, just because I need a fast international shipping, finally pick HEL. :)
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i didn't see you where you lived rollerfish (i don't go into profiles when reading threads)
the link is best for uk and then europe.
held do a good kit are you using there hoses too ?
I'm from Asia side so will concern about the shipping time and cost (If the company will ship internationally :P) .
Yes the hoses were included as a set, it's in good finish quality.
the hoses look great in black (i have black hoses and fittings on my AH cooler)
look forward to seeing yours fitted to the bike
:cheers:
Thank you. Just a quick search and found it in Germany for 126 €. Adding the necessary items should still get me far below what I would have to pay for the Hel (410 € for the kit :frustrated:).
However, if wanting to keep as close to original (which it is in my case) the Aaron would be it.
Radiator is not on my list but always good to be in the know.
However, a while back I was looking at replacing the original hoses/fittings to be able to get a setup that can be disconnected without having to repeatedly screw with the mounting to the engine. Request to Hel for just the hose/fitting kit Plus 2 additional 90° take off adapters. Never got a response though.
Now it looks like I found what I was looking for at https://www.ebay.de/usr/torques_uk?_trksid=p2047675.l2559 (https://www.ebay.de/usr/torques_uk?_trksid=p2047675.l2559) thanks to the mates here: http://gsx1400owners.org/forum/index.php?topic=860.0 (http://gsx1400owners.org/forum/index.php?topic=860.0)
Quote from: Andre on Thursday, 18 January 2018, 11:59 PM
Thank you. Just a quick search and found it in Germany for 126 €. Adding the necessary items should still get me far below what I would have to pay for the Hel (410 € for the kit :frustrated:).
Woh that's expensive :rolleyes: is it cause by tax ? I got my HEL set at £262.48 (no VAT, included shipping)
When I contact them, I use this :
http://www.helperformance.com/contact/
their email seems not working :whatever: :confused1:
344,50 € (305 £) without VAT (19%) but shipping included.
They adjust to where they are selling. Lots of cheap competitors in Asia.
I will not bother them again. :thumbs_down: But then it might be fun to tell them to change their name from HEL to HELL. :imrgreen: :stir:
HEL can be a little - how can I put it - sporadic on service and emails, it does vary as forum members over the last few years have discovered. Recent comments from members suggested that they had got past this, but it appears from your comments that this may not be 100% sorted yet, which is a shame as they are a nice helpful bunch of guys, but admin seems somehow beyond them at times.
Dave, my experience may or may not be representative for their usual service. May have been just a glitch. I am happy I appear to have choices when the time comes.
Installed the oil cooler today, it looks good to me. (maybe the hoses can shorten a bit when matching with the yoshimura now fitting) :boogie2:
looking good.
once the hoses are tidey it'll look ace.
are you changing the exhaust if so have a read through as much info as you can on removal the bolts are known to be toffee and very easily snapped .
good luck :cheers:
The exhaust are already yoshi full system (stainless, when new it's in matt black :smoke:). However every time when need to replace the oil filter, I have to detach the head pipes, the bolts are so far ok. :grin: Thanks for your advice ! :hat:
as some members are discussing the compatibility between and HEL Oil cooler and different exhaust headers, my case is the HEL can fit with Yoshimura "FULL SYSTEM STAINLESS STRAIGHT CYCLONE", just the hoses is a bit longer than it need (I think).
http://shop.yoshimura-jp.com/en/product/syousai.php?id=16
and there are several other models which I don't know will it be just fit:
http://shop.yoshimura-jp.com/en/product/result.php?maker_id=1&car_id=40
As I found the lower arm of the cooling fan had no place to attach to the Hel oil cooler, I decided to cut it off. So the fan is attach to the frame by 2 bolts now.
I also put the rubber cushions in different orders (some were cut into half the thickness), as trying to move the cooler a bit closer to the frame side (decrease the gap between the cooler and the fan).
I don't know is this the best arrangement or not but I am satisfy with the result. :)
view from the backside
Installed the shorten Hel oil lines (this time in stainless braid for better heat resistant), now better fitment ! :onya: :cheers:
I'm currently doing a HEL cooler on mine and have had to have lines made...
Looking at your photos - and please correct me if I'm wrong - but aren't the hoses supposed to be at the top and not underneath ?
My Hel cooler will be feeding in - out from the top
Stoli
Are you buying the kit set with hoses ? I think they originally design to run the hoses at underneath (as the mounting bolt at upside).
However their kit set oil hoses are a bit too long, I measured the suitable length and found it was matching what
@bigian14 suggested, please ref to:
http://gsx1400owners.org/forum/index.php?topic=2461.30
Also I think stainless braid is a better choice as the Black (Nylon??) braid may melt when contact or very near to the hot head pipe.
ive just mailed the guy.. he said mine was a one off so the hoses feed in at the top - PHEW !! thought I had it all wrong !
heart rate decreasing from humming bird speed.....
Stoli
maybe they have updated/tailor made their design after discussed with some members in this forum ...?
(Also I have good experience with their after-sale service :))
You actually can change the oil filter with out removing the headers. I've been taking the headers out as well but yesterday I got fed up - from the left hand side under the outmost header, there is just enough wiggleroom to get the filter out with full yoshi drain.
Quote from: BlackAdder on Saturday, 21 July 2018, 11:28 PM
You actually can change the oil filter with out removing the headers. I've been taking the headers out as well but yesterday I got fed up - from the left hand side under the outmost header, there is just enough wiggleroom to get the filter out with full yoshi drain.
With aftermarket oil lines ?
I just tried again with a Yoshi Cyclone and stock factory oil lines and I can't see how ?
Oh yeah, true - I've got custom made oil lines based on the ones that came with HEL (they leaked here and there, and the oil line it self couldnt handle the heat, they just boiled and cracked). Yeah, not sure with the OEM lines as I cant even remember how they are fitted there :D
I may look at getting a line made up to fit a stock cooler.
Only really need the left hand one.
An aftermarket line with the Hel style fitting would be easy to undo and move to get the filter out.
@Tony Nitrous I had lines on a standard cool and the cooler failed at the lower fittings on the cooler a known weak point on the bike ( in the middle of Hanover gernany).
I'd go for one of the standard looking after market coolers as they are much stronger than standard.
:cheers:
Quote from: BlackAdder on Saturday, 21 July 2018, 11:28 PM
You actually can change the oil filter with out removing the headers. I've been taking the headers out as well but yesterday I got fed up - from the left hand side under the outmost header, there is just enough wiggleroom to get the filter out with full yoshi drain.
Tested today, can install the Amsoil EAOM109 filter and detach the K&N-138 filter without removing the header (with my oil line install way). :onya:
Quote from: Tony Nitrous on Sunday, 22 July 2018, 09:00 PM
I may look at getting a line made up to fit a stock cooler.
Only really need the left hand one.
An aftermarket line with the Hel style fitting would be easy to undo and move to get the filter out.
Anyone know where/if you can get one of those hel type fittings? I have that daft problem where my original lines don't allow me to remove my filter. Did it today first time, had to drop off the centre support for the lines and disconnect the line from the clutch side of the cooler to get enough wiggle room. Ridiculous that a $four figure exhaust system stops you changing your oil.
Quote from: Shifty on Sunday, 09 June 2019, 12:04 AM
Anyone know where/if you can get one of those hel type fittings?
Throw HEL Performance a line asking if they have any spares? They at least used to be very helpful. The fittings are pretty common tho in turbo-things, imperial -8 JIC IIRC so most probably you'll find the exact same from a tuning shop with some digging.
Send mail to PTR there, he most prolly can guide you to right direction as well, and would be a bit closer.
...or internets...
https://www.earls.co.uk/earls/adapters/specialtakeoffs.html
...the ED17 looks prrretty darn close..
Nice looking, but you do know that is a SETRAB oil cooler, with HEL lines.
Used to run these coolers on my old audi S2 :hat: