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Title: Rear Shock Advice
Post by: CraigL on Friday, 22 December 2017, 06:18 AM
Evening all,

Well after sticking in a good bit of overtime I've decided to treat the 1400 to some new shocks. I've read the various posts on here and I'm after a little more advice please  :)

I've got a budget of about £500 and from my searching I believe I have 3 options.

Option 1 - Get the original shocks rebuilt. There not in bad condition but do have chips and scratches and a little corrosion, the adjusters have both failed but the previous owner had some static collars machined to replace the adjustable versions. The shocks themselves don't leak.
Option 2 - Hagon Nitro shocks, piggy back versions purley for asthetic reasons.
Option 3 - YSS Low speed piggy back versions.

Or maybe a 4th option find a very good pair of original shocks.

Anyones experiences with the above options or I'm open to other advice.

Regards
Craig
Title: Re: Rear Shock Advice
Post by: seth on Friday, 22 December 2017, 07:09 AM
option 1 is preferable to option 4 as you'll get your own known shocks refurbished so a known shock but looking great .
if your going for a replacements then hagon are bests for the money.
I've no idea about the yss shocks ive never heard of them .
i had hagons on my 14 and they were good .
seth
Title: Re: Rear Shock Advice
Post by: Andre on Friday, 22 December 2017, 07:24 AM
I went for option 1. Repaired preload adjusters and rebuild the internals as well as set up for my weight and riding profile for much less than your budget. No chips or corrosion on mine on the outside. Very happy with them.

The suspension specialist mentioned that he had just measured out a new yss fork and was not happy about the new "quality parts" he found. Didn't mention anything about their shocks though.

No ideas about the hagons but appears that most people like them.
Title: Re: Rear Shock Advice
Post by: CraigL on Saturday, 23 December 2017, 05:26 AM
Quote from: Andre on Friday, 22 December  2017, 07:24 AM
I went for option 1. Repaired preload adjusters and rebuild the internals as well as set up for my weight and riding profile for much less than your budget. No chips or corrosion on mine on the outside. Very happy with them.

The suspension specialist mentioned that he had just measured out a new yss fork and was not happy about the new "quality parts" he found. Didn't mention anything about their shocks though.

No ideas about the hagons but appears that most people like them.

In all honesty I would much prefer to have my shocks rebuilt to keep some originality and to be honest I prefer the look of the original showa shocks, I think it's just finding the right place to send them, does anyone have any recommendations?

Craig
Title: Re: Rear Shock Advice
Post by: seth on Saturday, 23 December 2017, 05:39 AM
there are a couple of the guys here who have made a fantastic job of refurbishing there shocks so hopefully someone will be along who can help .
:cheers:
Title: Re: Rear Shock Advice
Post by: Notty on Saturday, 23 December 2017, 05:53 AM
Hopefully mine will be removed in the new year and for sale !!  :smile2:
Title: Re: Rear Shock Advice
Post by: gsxbarmy on Saturday, 23 December 2017, 09:34 AM
Quote from: CraigL on Saturday, 23 December  2017, 05:26 AM
Quote from: Andre on Friday, 22 December  2017, 07:24 AM
I went for option 1. Repaired preload adjusters and rebuild the internals as well as set up for my weight and riding profile for much less than your budget. No chips or corrosion on mine on the outside. Very happy with them.

The suspension specialist mentioned that he had just measured out a new yss fork and was not happy about the new "quality parts" he found. Didn't mention anything about their shocks though.

No ideas about the hagons but appears that most people like them.

In all honesty I would much prefer to have my shocks rebuilt to keep some originality and to be honest I prefer the look of the original showa shocks, I think it's just finding the right place to send them, does anyone have any recommendations?

Craig

Maxtons would be your best bet http://www.maxtonsuspension.co.uk/ IMO
Title: Re: Rear Shock Advice
Post by: V_i_c_i on Saturday, 23 December 2017, 11:16 PM
I prefer rebuilt original ones...
http://www.motorkari.cz/motorka/?mid=68345&act=moto-denik-detail&ddid=58509
But big problem is get OEM seals for pre load adjusters :-/
Title: Re: Rear Shock Advice
Post by: seth on Sunday, 24 December 2017, 12:29 AM
v.i.c.i.
craig has a manual pre-load adjusters conversion so seals not required.

seth
Title: Re: Rear Shock Advice
Post by: Red Biker on Sunday, 24 December 2017, 03:24 AM
Hi Craig
I have the Nitro's but can't really compare as they were on when I bought the bike, I wouold say getting the bike professionally set up for your weight and riding style will be money well spent.
I use a Ian @ ETTO Motorbikes he's based between Nottm and Newark.
Proper qualified technician 👍

Good luck with the project!

Red
Title: Re: Rear Shock Advice
Post by: CraigL on Sunday, 24 December 2017, 05:36 AM
Quote from: gsxbarmy on Saturday, 23 December  2017, 09:34 AM
Quote from: CraigL on Saturday, 23 December  2017, 05:26 AM
Quote from: Andre on Friday, 22 December  2017, 07:24 AM
I went for option 1. Repaired preload adjusters and rebuild the internals as well as set up for my weight and riding profile for much less than your budget. No chips or corrosion on mine on the outside. Very happy with them.

The suspension specialist mentioned that he had just measured out a new yss fork and was not happy about the new "quality parts" he found. Didn't mention anything about their shocks though.

No ideas about the hagons but appears that most people like them.

In all honesty I would much prefer to have my shocks rebuilt to keep some originality and to be honest I prefer the look of the original showa shocks, I think it's just finding the right place to send them, does anyone have any recommendations?

Craig

Maxtons would be your best bet http://www.maxtonsuspension.co.uk/ IMO

Cheers Barmy, I've sent them and Brook Suspension an email regarding having my shocks rebuilt, so will wait and see what they say in the new year.

Craig
Title: Re: Rear Shock Advice
Post by: CraigL on Sunday, 24 December 2017, 05:38 AM
Quote from: Red Biker on Sunday, 24 December  2017, 03:24 AM
Hi Craig
I have the Nitro's but can't really compare as they were on when I bought the bike, I wouold say getting the bike professionally set up for your weight and riding style will be money well spent.
I use a Ian @ ETTO Motorbikes he's based between Nottm and Newark.
Proper qualified technician 👍

Good luck with the project!

Red

That is definitely something I plan to do once I've got the shocks sorted, thank you for the recommendation Red and not to far from me either really

Craig
Title: Re: Rear Shock Advice
Post by: CraigL on Sunday, 24 December 2017, 05:47 AM
Quote from: V_i_c_i on Saturday, 23 December  2017, 11:16 PM
I prefer rebuilt original ones...
http://www.motorkari.cz/motorka/?mid=68345&act=moto-denik-detail&ddid=58509
But big problem is get OEM seals for pre load adjusters :-/

I agree V_i_c_i, they look much better and apparently once set up, they're a very good shock.
Did you do the shock rebuild yourself and what products did you use to get the final finish, they look great.

Craig
Title: Re: Rear Shock Advice
Post by: Red Biker on Sunday, 24 December 2017, 07:33 AM
Quote from: CraigL on Sunday, 24 December  2017, 05:38 AM
Quote from: Red Biker on Sunday, 24 December  2017, 03:24 AM
Hi Craig
I have the Nitro's but can't really compare as they were on when I bought the bike, I wouold say getting the bike professionally set up for your weight and riding style will be money well spent.
I use a Ian @ ETTO Motorbikes he's based between Nottm and Newark.
Proper qualified technician 👍

Good luck with the project!

Red

I was in Louth on Monday dropping my tank and other bits off to be wrapped, 1hr 25 mins  :onya:



That is definitely something I plan to do once I've got the shocks sorted, thank you for the recommendation Red and not to far from me either really

Craig
Title: Re: Rear Shock Advice
Post by: CraigL on Sunday, 24 December 2017, 08:37 AM
Quote from: Red Biker on Sunday, 24 December  2017, 07:33 AM
Quote from: CraigL on Sunday, 24 December  2017, 05:38 AM
Quote from: Red Biker on Sunday, 24 December  2017, 03:24 AM
Hi Craig
I have the Nitro's but can't really compare as they were on when I bought the bike, I wouold say getting the bike professionally set up for your weight and riding style will be money well spent.
I use a Ian @ ETTO Motorbikes he's based between Nottm and Newark.
Proper qualified technician 👍

Good luck with the project!

Red

I was in Louth on Monday dropping my tank and other bits off to be wrapped, 1hr 25 mins  :onya:



That is definitely something I plan to do once I've got the shocks sorted, thank you for the recommendation Red and not to far from me either really

Craig

Where abouts in Louth was that Red, only asking as I was intending on having the infill panels wrapped at some point!

Craig
Title: Re: Rear Shock Advice
Post by: Andre on Sunday, 24 December 2017, 08:54 AM
Quote from: V_i_c_i on Saturday, 23 December  2017, 11:16 PM
I prefer rebuilt original ones...
http://www.motorkari.cz/motorka/?mid=68345&act=moto-denik-detail&ddid=58509
But big problem is get OEM seals for pre load adjusters :-/

@V_i_c_i Very nice site.  :onya: Thanks to google translator I can read it :)