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Title: British justice, what a laugh.
Post by: Mick_J on Thursday, 07 December 2017, 07:20 PM
 :furious: :furious: Rant alert  :furious: :furious:


Yesterday a howling biff got three years (that means 18 months) in a centrally heated hotel with three hot meals a day, sky TV, Phone calls and a private room for killing a lad on a motorbike while driving on the wrong side of the road using her mobile phone, a 27 minute yakker. When will innocent people get justice for this kind of reckless behaivior. This sort of justice really pi$$es me off.

:furious: rant over, for now  :furious:
Title: Re: British justice, what a laugh.
Post by: Daytona on Thursday, 07 December 2017, 07:30 PM
Here here,,,,what really pisses me off is if the biker had have been caught doing over  the ton Mark on his bike,without hurting or killing anyone he would probably receive a longer spell behind bars plus a bloody good fine to go with it,,,makes one wonder doesn't it,,.
Title: Re: British justice, what a laugh.
Post by: Mick_J on Thursday, 07 December 2017, 07:36 PM
Last year a biker got two years for speeding.
Title: Re: British justice, what a laugh.
Post by: gsxbarmy on Thursday, 07 December 2017, 07:55 PM
"Using her mobile phone" - must admit that really irkes me when I'm out driving, people yakking on their phones. When I worked for BP, it was a sackable offence if you used your mobile whilst driving, more companies should do that IMO. And the law should up the fines etc for same.
Title: Re: British justice, what a laugh.
Post by: Notty on Thursday, 07 December 2017, 08:05 PM
 :furious: :furious: :furious: :furious: :furious:
Title: Re: British justice, what a laugh.
Post by: Mister Fishfinger on Thursday, 07 December 2017, 08:10 PM
It'll only change when the public mindset changes, like it did for drinking and driving. It needs a combination of heavy penalties and public education, but I don't think we are near there yet.

I would certainly support an instant ban for those who are caught using their phone while driving, but from what I can see people are doing it with impunity because a) the penalty isn't a deterrent and b) the chances of being seen are tiny, since there are no traffic police anywhere.
Title: Re: British justice, what a laugh.
Post by: grog on Thursday, 07 December 2017, 08:52 PM
i drive all day for work. all the time see frogwits txting,or on the phone, car drivers, bus drivers, truck drivers. annoys me lots. i want a sign to hold up to them. shove your phone up your arse, or similar. after work, on my bike, pulled up at lights today, could see 3 txting. a laser beam i really want, just zap the bloody phone. my ute, my car have mobile blue tooth connections, never bothered on bike, my time only. will never , ever have phone, music etc on bike. 46 yrs without, not changing now. i am not old fashioned or tech. challenged, my bike is my time. kiwifruit wrote similar not long back, therapy time. sure is true.
Title: Re: British justice, what a laugh.
Post by: Red Biker on Thursday, 07 December 2017, 09:00 PM
The latest  Apple update means the i phone sensors when you are moving, so now shuts off into a sleep mode whenever I'm in the car, to use the hands free I have to tell it I'm the passenger.

Point being surely there is somthing they can do to shut phones down unless connected to hands free, or maybe it should be an MOT fail if you dont have handsfree fitted to your car!

Title: Re: British justice, what a laugh.
Post by: Mister Fishfinger on Thursday, 07 December 2017, 09:06 PM
Technology can only do so much. People will find their way around it if they are determined to do so.

For example in Greece, seatbelts are compulsory but people hate wearing them. So in many petrol stations you can buy a dummy seatbelt prong that you can plug in to the receptacle in your car, which then shuts up the warning bell and light.
Title: Re: British justice, what a laugh.
Post by: froudy on Thursday, 07 December 2017, 10:06 PM
mjgt..I saw the report on the news last night...Made my piss boil too.

They were talking about making it illegal to even use "Hands free" kit while driving as it has been proved that when using it your attention is not 100% on your driving.
I see it all the time while I'm riding, even on the motorway. Followed a Mini one night wandering between lane 2 and 3..As I passed it..Dumb blonde on mobile!! :furious: :furious:
Title: Re: British justice, what a laugh.
Post by: Mister Fishfinger on Friday, 08 December 2017, 08:02 AM
Here's the full story by the way: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5133243/Driver-talking-hands-free-phone-killed-father.html
Title: Re: British justice, what a laugh.
Post by: TAZ on Friday, 08 December 2017, 08:42 PM
Even more annoying she was using hands free it said. Even more reason phones should be banned in cars FULL STOP !!
there must be technology so all phones shut down over 10mph . I tell work leave me a voicemail and I will pull over and check it when I get chance
Title: Re: British justice, what a laugh.
Post by: gsxbarmy on Friday, 08 December 2017, 09:55 PM
Quote from: TAZ on Friday, 08 December  2017, 08:42 PM
Even more annoying she was using hands free it said. Even more reason phones should be banned in cars FULL STOP !!
there must be technology so all phones shut down over 10mph . I tell work leave me a voicemail and I will pull over and check it when I get chance

Well said Steve, 1000% agree  :clapping:

Car manufacturers don't help though - in my Audi (and you must know this), if I get a text (instead of a voicemail), I can get the car to read it to me (if I so choose - I don't - but the option is there). Probably the same in many other (recent - less than 5 year old) VAG group cars as well as other manufacturers. Technology really can go too far FFS, do we really need to be contactable 24x7? Simple answer NO.
Title: Re: British justice, what a laugh.
Post by: Basil Brush on Saturday, 09 December 2017, 01:04 AM
I saw the case, as it was on our local BBC news. I was literally spitting at the television...

Stupid woman actually tried to lie at first as to her explanation why she was on the wrong side of the road.

Karma moves is many ways...
Title: Re: British justice, what a laugh.
Post by: Daytona on Saturday, 09 December 2017, 02:46 AM
This has just been made worse for me as I knew the rider personally,when I saw the original post I wasn't aware that it was about him,just for the record he was one of the nicest lads you could wish to meet,and a good motorcycle mechanic,   Gutted,,
Title: Re: British justice, what a laugh.
Post by: ARH on Sunday, 10 December 2017, 10:33 PM
An emotive topic given the consequences.... and I respect the point of view that hands free should be banned but....... where do you draw the line?  For me this is more about driver training than restricting stuff like this.  How many people do we see eating and drinking while driving?  Listening to loud music?  Having a heated conversation with a passenger?  Berating kids in the back seat?  Dogs in the car?  The list goes on and on... and every single one of these is an event that can distract you from driving.   For sure if you tried to ban all of the above, the civil libertarians will be jumping up and down shouting foul! 

Only sayin....  :hat:
Title: Re: British justice, what a laugh.
Post by: Red Biker on Tuesday, 12 December 2017, 05:27 AM
This is the wreck of a real incident, the Police use it on road shows to show people what can happen if you lose concentration, the 2 people in the car and the biker were all killed!

Title: Re: British justice, what a laugh.
Post by: froudy on Tuesday, 12 December 2017, 06:48 AM
I don't think she was on her phone, but lapse of concentration and she "U" turned out of a layby right in front of me...And YES it did hurt!!!
Title: Re: British justice, what a laugh.
Post by: Mick_J on Tuesday, 12 December 2017, 07:00 PM
One of the policemen on "police Camera Action" was killed the other day at a road junction, did'nt give details but he was on a police bike.  Even a skilled profesional can get caught out.