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Technically Speaking => Wheels & Tyres => Topic started by: VladTepes on Friday, 29 September 2017, 03:47 PM

Title: Aaaahhhh bugger, flat tyre
Post by: VladTepes on Friday, 29 September 2017, 03:47 PM

With my shoulder problem the bike has sat unused for weeks.


I walked past it last night, saw a metal thingy on the rear tyre.  Just looked like a small piece of wire but wouldn't come out by hand so I got the pliers onto it.


Well it was a folded over piece of wire so would have been two holes side by side.  Air rushed out at an alarming rate, I left in disgust.  Haven't looked since but tyre is no doubt flat.


Now I'm going to have to take the bloody rear wheel out to get the tyre fixed...


I've never done that before so have to figure out the best process.


Can  @Tony Nitrous or anyone recommend best place in north brissie to get a tyre repair done?


Is a tyre repair even a good (safe) option - it's a near bloody new PR4 !
Title: Re: Aaaahhhh bugger, flat tyre
Post by: owen426 on Friday, 29 September 2017, 04:24 PM
Well if it makes you feel better I hadn't ridden my bike for while and came out to discover a flat tyre when i took it off the centre stand. Had a nice slash in it from something so it was too far gone resulting in a new PR4 for me as well.

News to me is they use beads inside the tyre not rim weights to balance the wheel now, although I'm still trying to figure out how it works.



Title: Re: Aaaahhhh bugger, flat tyre
Post by: Snapey on Friday, 29 September 2017, 04:55 PM
Quote from: VladTepes on Friday, 29 September  2017, 03:47 PM
Is a tyre repair even a good (safe) option - it's a near bloody new PR4 !

Repair the damn thing although being a PR4 I think I'd cut my losses and replace it with a proper tyre.
Title: Re: Aaaahhhh bugger, flat tyre
Post by: Andre on Friday, 29 September 2017, 05:39 PM
Some (many?) tire shops refuse to repair bike tires as possible liability issues can be horrendous. Have heard of some (on this forum?) who have repaired themselves and everything went honky dory afterwards. I think it depends on the damage, the care taken when repairing, AND your riding style. If your style is hard on tires, I would definitely get a new one. If you go the repair option, I would not ride the tire up to its normal life but change it way earlier as the repair plug wears down resulting in less adherence surface.
Title: Re: Aaaahhhh bugger, flat tyre
Post by: Mick_J on Friday, 29 September 2017, 05:49 PM
A good mushroom tyre repair from the inside is very safe and most repair centres here will do it once, but not two holes. Ask the repair centre.
Title: Re: Aaaahhhh bugger, flat tyre
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Friday, 29 September 2017, 07:19 PM
I've ran 10.3 quarters on plugged tyres.
Done a 2000K weekend run with a pillion.
Clocked up lots of miles.

I've had several free tyres off mates who wont run repaired tyres.
Doesn't bother me, I love free tyres !

Rears only, plugged from the inside.

http://www.onsitemotorcycletyres.com.au/motorcycle-puncture-repair-guidelines.html
Title: Re: Aaaahhhh bugger, flat tyre
Post by: Buddynq on Friday, 29 September 2017, 07:41 PM
When I had a screw in my brand new tyre they told me they could plug it if it was straight in but not on an angle.
Naturally it was on an angle  :furious:

Now, if I'm going to 'dinky' you @VladTepes (see mcr post) then you should get a new one  :hat: :rofl2:
Title: Re: Aaaahhhh bugger, flat tyre
Post by: Buddynq on Friday, 29 September 2017, 07:43 PM
Just saw your post on other thread :doh:
Title: Re: Aaaahhhh bugger, flat tyre
Post by: grog on Friday, 29 September 2017, 07:44 PM
great info Tony. we use inside oui plug repairs at work for car tyres. never a problem. i would be quite confident on using. hole is drilled out, inside swabbed with cleaner, adhesive applied on tyre inner, plug pulled thru to outside. flatten patch inside with little roller tool, cut off outside. seems to work .
Title: Re: Aaaahhhh bugger, flat tyre
Post by: Irish in Oz on Saturday, 30 September 2017, 12:14 PM
I have done a few plugs , carry a kit on board, wouldn't like to do an internal one on the side of the road. Make sure your glue is still soft got caught out once on way to MCR .
Title: Re: Aaaahhhh bugger, flat tyre
Post by: gsxbarmy on Saturday, 30 September 2017, 04:58 PM
Not sure if they do these down under but these Stop N Go puncture kits are brilliant, do bikes, cars, vans, trucks, and no glue required. Really easy to use and no glue required. I've used these successfully on both my rear tyre and car tyre, no loss of pressure either once "fitted"

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/STOP-N-GO-CAR-VAN-MOTORCYCLE-TUBELESS-POCKET-TYRE-PLUGGER-PUNCTURE-REPAIR-KIT-/132220572195?hash=item1ec8f5d223:g:1m4AAOSw3v5YqeNT

Not cheap - but very effective and easy to use
Title: Re: Aaaahhhh bugger, flat tyre
Post by: grog on Saturday, 30 September 2017, 08:13 PM
good idea but illegal in qld, plug has to from inside.
Title: Re: Aaaahhhh bugger, flat tyre
Post by: ARH on Sunday, 01 October 2017, 01:34 AM
Had a bad experience with these things.... took the chance to continue riding for some time after a repair and  the tyre deflated quickly scaring the crap out of me.... never again.   Fine for a 'get me home' solution, but the rubber rings are the only things connecting you to the road... wouldnt take that risk any more!  Each to there own tho...
Title: Re: Aaaahhhh bugger, flat tyre
Post by: VladTepes on Tuesday, 10 October 2017, 05:14 PM

@Tony Nitrous et al.


If I pull the wheel from the bike (which I'd have to do anyway) are that mobile mob just as cheap or am I better off actually taking it to a bike tyre shop somewhere?
Title: Re: Aaaahhhh bugger, flat tyre
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Tuesday, 10 October 2017, 05:52 PM
The one I posted above is a mobile but I never use them.
I normally just drop mine in somewhere on the way to work
and tell them to fit it in when they can, and collect it on the
way home. Much cheaper.
Title: Re: Aaaahhhh bugger, flat tyre
Post by: VladTepes on Wednesday, 11 October 2017, 11:10 AM
OK cool, thanks Tony.
Title: Re: Aaaahhhh bugger, flat tyre
Post by: VladTepes on Sunday, 05 November 2017, 11:11 PM
So.... I went to get my tyre plugged.. nope. Too close to the sidewall, can't do it.  BUGGER.  $300 later....


At least this gives me a chance to try a 55 profile rear....  :)