Just fitted these to my Explorer, come as a pair for £32.99 - bargain. And damn they are bright!!!! Might be a bit of a tight fit getting the ballast in the headlight, but its small enough (IMO) that it could be covered in self-amalgamating tape to waterproof it just outside and under the headlight bowl possibly. As I no longer have a 14, I can't (personally) try them on a 14 (or even say that they will fit), but for the price, these are really very good. Came recommended on the Tex site I frequent over the Cyclops (on price - Cyclops bulbs are about £65-£70 each) and have to say, so far I am well impressed! Easily removable if you want to return to standard as well (plug and play).
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B073J46H8X?th=1
Hi Dave,
Similar to ones I bought from China; they fitted OK on mine.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Newest-H4-HB2-9003-Led-CREE-Hi-Lo-H4-3-High-Power-40W-4000lm-3000K-6000K/32573163897.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.U9e7pQ
Cheers,
Rick
How does Dip/Full work?
I would be more inclined to buy the Philips ones though they are around £60 a pair
Quote from: Monarchjock on Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 09:26 PM
How does Dip/Full work?
Twin LEDs inside the bulb - one for low, one for high. See my post further down, picture of one of the bulbs in the box prior to me fitting it, and you can see the two LED's
Quote from: Timothy Spencer on Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 09:58 PM
I would be more inclined to buy the Philips ones though they are around £60 a pair
Well if you want to spend £27 more than you need to that's your choice. These work extremely well and have a 5 year guarantee too. Many on the Triumph forums have fitted the Cyclops bulbs at about £70 a bulb but are finding these ones work as well. Had my Tex out last night and these are so much better than the Philips XTreme Vision and Osram Night Breaker / Night Racer bulbs, excellent spread of light.
Perhaps you can put a link up to the Philips H4 LED Headlight bulbs you refer to as I can't find them, the only ones on Powerbulbs around that price (PY21W) are not H4 Headlight replacements and not Hi/Lo (in fact it says in the description "signalling and interior lighting") - in fact none of the Philips bulbs there are Hi/Lo LED replacements (I've even checked the Philips site and they don't list LED Headlight bulbs for either cars or bikes that I can see) - so I think you are mistaken in thinking Philips make a set of LED H4 bulbs
Interesting....
I'm resisting fitting 100/80w again as I think that was the tipping point that burnt out my last alternator. I've got fed up with HID kits that don't quite fit & crack the wires when forced into 14 headlights.
And that time of year is coming up...
Do they come in various colours like HIDs? or do they just do proper white Dave?
Quote from: Hooli on Thursday, 17 August 2017, 06:52 AM
Do they come in various colours like HIDs? or do they just do proper white Dave?
Just proper white, nice and bright too!! Here's a picture of a Tex with them fitted (I ordered and fitted mine after seeing this). Also they only pull 40w power, so easier on the alternator! From my (brief) ride out last night the way they work is in-line with the OEM LED headlamps I have in my car - nice and bright in other words!
Dead easy to fit as well. Take out old bulb, remove LED bulb from holder (as mentioned in the bulb instructions), fit the holder in place of the old bulb, twist the LED bulb into the holder, plug the socket into the loom bulb plug and that's it. They are also CanBus friendly (which was important for me with the Tex, but not for GSX1400's)
Looks good, I might have to spoil myself.
I wonder if they would fit in my Rocket 111..
Quote from: Proteous on Thursday, 17 August 2017, 07:48 AM
I wonder if they would fit in my Rocket 111..
I would think so Jay - took a bit fiddling to get mine in, but with a bit of patience (and a more than a few cups of tea where we "restarted the fitment") they were in. Basically its hiding the ballast and the plug, on mine having put the base plate in off the LED's I could then wiggle and jiggle the ballast in under the bulb (remember I have a sealed unit here!), then fitted the LED itself, and finally finding where the plug would jiggle in (good old 3 o'clock position LOL). And Robert was then my mothers' brother!
Remember with Amazon, you can of course return them if they don't fit.....(or so I'm told)
Robert was then my mothers brother! Really Dave, you gotta get another job - give your mind something to do!
Quote from: KiwiCol on Thursday, 17 August 2017, 10:23 AM
Robert was then my mothers brother! Really Dave, you gotta get another job - give your mind something to do!
Haha - as my kicker says "I love retirement - nothing to do and all day to do it".
Seduce my ancient footwear :lol:
Hmmm, that's a new one on me. I'm picking the ancient footwear is a Sandle (roman?) as for seduction of the said footwear, I'm at a loss. Maybe Kiwifruit will know that one - hailing from blighty originally. Or Stoli, he strikes me as the sort who'd seduce a sandle!!
@Kiwifruit @Stolichnaya
Seduce my ancient footwear - "F@@@ my old boots" LOL
1001,
That's not a term that's used down under as far as I know, and I know most of those sort of things!! Go n R**t yer Boot, would be closest, a phrase used to tell someone you do not wish to do something they have suggested. LOL!!
Great n it!
Quote from: gsxbarmy on Thursday, 17 August 2017, 01:48 AM
Quote from: Timothy Spencer on Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 09:58 PM
I would be more inclined to buy the Philips ones though they are around £60 a pair
Well if you want to spend £27 more than you need to that's your choice. These work extremely well and have a 5 year guarantee too. Many on the Triumph forums have fitted the Cyclops bulbs at about £70 a bulb but are finding these ones work as well. Had my Tex out last night and these are so much better than the Philips XTreme Vision and Osram Night Breaker / Night Racer bulbs, excellent spread of light.
Perhaps you can put a link up to the Philips H4 LED Headlight bulbs you refer to as I can't find them, the only ones on Powerbulbs around that price (PY21W) are not H4 Headlight replacements and not Hi/Lo (in fact it says in the description "signalling and interior lighting") - in fact none of the Philips bulbs there are Hi/Lo LED replacements (I've even checked the Philips site and they don't list LED Headlight bulbs for either cars or bikes that I can see) - so I think you are mistaken in thinking Philips make a set of LED H4 bulbs
Link to the Philips headlight bulbs NO FANS in these
https://www.auto-lighting.co.uk/product-eng-6341-H4-Headlight-Conversion-KIT-with-Philips-Luxeon-MZ-R4-LED-Bulbs-4800lm-Lumen.html
and if you did not want the spare bulb as they are £59.99 for a pair then you could sell it on
Quote from: Timothy Spencer on Thursday, 17 August 2017, 06:54 PM
Quote from: gsxbarmy on Thursday, 17 August 2017, 01:48 AM
Quote from: Timothy Spencer on Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 09:58 PM
I would be more inclined to buy the Philips ones though they are around £60 a pair
Well if you want to spend £27 more than you need to that's your choice. These work extremely well and have a 5 year guarantee too. Many on the Triumph forums have fitted the Cyclops bulbs at about £70 a bulb but are finding these ones work as well. Had my Tex out last night and these are so much better than the Philips XTreme Vision and Osram Night Breaker / Night Racer bulbs, excellent spread of light.
Perhaps you can put a link up to the Philips H4 LED Headlight bulbs you refer to as I can't find them, the only ones on Powerbulbs around that price (PY21W) are not H4 Headlight replacements and not Hi/Lo (in fact it says in the description "signalling and interior lighting") - in fact none of the Philips bulbs there are Hi/Lo LED replacements (I've even checked the Philips site and they don't list LED Headlight bulbs for either cars or bikes that I can see) - so I think you are mistaken in thinking Philips make a set of LED H4 bulbs
Link to the Philips headlight bulbs NO FANS in these
https://www.auto-lighting.co.uk/product-eng-6341-H4-Headlight-Conversion-KIT-with-Philips-Luxeon-MZ-R4-LED-Bulbs-4800lm-Lumen.html
and if you did not want the spare bulb as they are £59.99 for a pair then you could sell it on
Thanks Timothy - they look interesting and are most certainly an alternate option. I wonder why Philips don't list them on their site? Odd.
Odd? Yes. Unusual? No.
Seen this with varying companies. Just today with fork oil from Motorex. Was going to mix their 2.5W with 5W to get my desired cSt 40. Looked at the Louis site but they don't list the 2.5W. Thought I remembered to have seen 2.5W in one of their physical shops. So went there for a look. There it was, as was the 5W. BUT, between the two was 4W! That was neither listed on the Motorex or the Louis web site and had the cSt I was going to mix myself. That little trip to the store saved me 28€ and mixing the stuff.
ADDED: Just found the 4W on the bulgarian Motorex site. The Viscosity-Mix-Chart (not to be found on their main site) can be found there as well.
They all seem to come in pairs Dave. Can you fit just one?
When I tried HIDs some of them tried to tell me I could use one & then supplied a kit where a single ballast run two lamps.
Quote from: Hooli on Friday, 18 August 2017, 03:04 AM
They all seem to come in pairs Dave. Can you fit just one?
When I tried HIDs some of them tried to tell me I could use one & then supplied a kit where a single ballast run two lamps.
Yes Andy you can, they are two separate bulbs with separate ballasts and separate connections - here's a picture of one of the units
The chinese ones that I bought came in differant colour options, they come with a glass filter that slides over the Led if required - I didn't fit it to mine.
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/LED-Car-Light-Bulb-Glass-Tubes-Filters-3000K-Yellow-4300K-Warm-White-8000K-Blue-DIY-Colors/1735677_32790001537.html
Quote from: KiwiCol on Thursday, 17 August 2017, 06:12 PM
Hmmm, that's a new one on me. I'm picking the ancient footwear is a Sandle (roman?) as for seduction of the said footwear, I'm at a loss. Maybe Kiwifruit will know that one - hailing from blighty originally. Or Stoli, he strikes me as the sort who'd seduce a sandle!!
@Kiwifruit @Stolichnaya
hey hey HEY!!!!! hang on a minute - im not 400 years old. im very much a brogues n jeans kinda a guy. think of me as "chubby but hiding it with XXXL clothes whilst dashing and lithe in a rotund elyptical sort or girth.
Sandals indeed... and thanks for putting them right Barmy ... as you know im dashing, svelte, handsome, debonairre ... with a hint of fat, chubby and with a slight wobble to my mince!!!
Quote from: gsxbarmy on Friday, 18 August 2017, 07:59 AM
Quote from: Hooli on Friday, 18 August 2017, 03:04 AM
They all seem to come in pairs Dave. Can you fit just one?
When I tried HIDs some of them tried to tell me I could use one & then supplied a kit where a single ballast run two lamps.
Yes Andy you can, they are two separate bulbs with separate ballasts and separate connections - here's a picture of one of the units
Cheers.
No idea what to do with the spare though, as they should* never break.
Leave me out of this Col..... I saw the word MINCE somewhere !! :facepalm:
I left the UK long before being inducted into the ways of the socks and sandels with a knotted hanky on your head British beach goer .
:stir:
You're memory must be fading too. That's how we dress in the park, it's always raining on the beach so we wear waterproofs, wellies & carry a brolly. Oh & call it 'bracing'.
I've just found something out when comparing LED lamps etc, a standard H4 halogen lamp is about 1,200 lumens. So considering Barmy's suggested lamps are 7,300 lumens you can tell how much brighter they are.
Right, ordered the same ones as you Barmy. We'll soon find out if they fit a 14...
Very interested to see if they fit. Also interested to see if there are any heat issues, especially in the cramped quarters of the 14.
Quote from: Andre on Monday, 21 August 2017, 01:57 AM
Very interested to see if they fit. Also interested to see if there are any heat issues, especially in the cramped quarters of the 14.
My Triumph Explorer is even more cramped than the 14 believe ma Andre! Well took mine on a 250 mile run yesterday, they worked perfectly, no heat issues at all. So we'll see how Hooli gets on!
Barmy, did you put the ballast/driver inside the headlight on yours? I have done but I was in two minds about it in case it got rather warm.
BTW they fit fine, the lamp unit is no longer behind the light than a H4 with the multiplug on. I had to bugger about rebending the spring clamp to hold it in, as standard it was pressing against the large fan on the back on the lamp & not letting it seat properly.
Yes Andy, I did put the ballast resistor inside the shell on my Explorer, it was a bit of a tight fit, but it slipped in alongside the reflector.
When you say you had to bend the spring clamp - you did put the LED holder in with the screw heads facing forward (as per the instructions) as I had no such issues.
Glad to see it all fits though - what do you think of it now its all fitted up?
Looks bright & appears to have a good beam pattern, I won't be sure till I use it in the dark which isn't happening much currently.
It did all go in as it came out the box Barmy, the problem was the bit of the wire that sticks up for you to undo the clip was pushing the back bit on the back away from the light so it didn't stay seated. I just had to reshape it a bit further out to clear that & all was good.
I was at a Honda dealer yesterday (don't start) and noticed that the very pretty CB1100 has a 7" headlight stuffed with LEDs, may be another option to go full on LED.
I have been looking at these for the R3
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wisamic-Projection-Headlight-Motorcycles-Bulb-Black/dp/B01EA7U4GS/ref=pd_sbs_236_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=97MACAVGHTPPWFTZXDXH
Quote from: gsxbarmy on Tuesday, 22 August 2017, 07:53 AM
what do you think of it now its all fitted up?
Left home at 4:45am today for an early start at work. I can see in the dark again! I don't think it's quite as good as my first HID but it's a hell of a lot better than the standard bulb. I can do 80-90 down roads where the normal bulb limited me to 40-50 previously.
Brilliant Andy. I must say for the money I'm very impressed with them, one of my better buys - like you I've found them excellent at night, also during the day I feel I can be seen better
So a good result in the 1400 Hooli?
Easy to install?
After all. that's what I'm interested in.
Whether they work on a Triump is of no interest to me at all.... :stir: :stir: :stir:
it was this Triumph owner who suggested / "introduced" them to this forum as an upgrade for the 14.
I won't bother in future if that's how it's to be.
Don't be leaving us in the dark barmy!
Nice little word play there . . . see that?
back together fellas, no arguing needed. im not interested in led light so no idea why i read . my led park globes both failed in a few months, went back to normal. still working a year later. not saying same for headlights
Quote from: Proteous on Thursday, 24 August 2017, 10:40 PM
I have been looking at these for the R3
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wisamic-Projection-Headlight-Motorcycles-Bulb-Black/dp/B01EA7U4GS/ref=pd_sbs_236_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=97MACAVGHTPPhttps://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B01N4KJJ39?psc=1WFTZXDXH
Amazon have got 7" units as well but for Hardly Movingsons, i'm wondering whether these can be adapted to fit but the GSX has a parking lamp and i'm not sure if this is a Mot requirement?
No chance right now to get LED headlights MOT approval here in Germany, but still interested in this topic for the future. Regarding "improved" headlights I found that improved has its price. More € and less (much less) durability.
Quote from: VladTepes on Thursday, 07 September 2017, 10:40 AM
So a good result in the 1400 Hooli?
Easy to install?
After all. that's what I'm interested in.
A doddle, all I had to do was bend the spring clip a bit as it was fouling the fan unit so the lamp didn't seat properly.
Quote from: gsxbarmy on Thursday, 07 September 2017, 04:25 PM
it was this Triumph owner who suggested / "introduced" them to this forum as an upgrade for the 14.
I won't bother in future if that's how it's to be.
Tongue in cheek mate.
'Foot n Mouth' Mike?
So
@Hooli are you still running the LED bulb? Happy with it? Would you do it again or go some other option?
Yup still running it, no issues & happy with it. I've still got the other one (had to a car kit so got a pair) and if/when this ever fails the other one will go in.
and to clarify - it went into the standard 1400 headlight bucket OK? Does the ballast sit inside or outside the headlight bucket?
I honestly can't remember, it fitted almost without issue. I had to tweak the wire clamp that retains the lamp unit, as the LED lamp is a slightly different shape & wasn't sitting properly. I'll check the pics I took at the time when home & let you know about the other ballast position.
I didn't take a pic of the ballast in place but looking at the size of it & length of wires in the pic I'd say it's inside the headlight bowl.
Bulb and ballast are one unit - so will be inside the headlamp bowl
@Hooli Did you manage to refit the rubber boot when you fitted the LED bulb?
I had a quick play with the pair Notty got us..Maybe I wasn't in the right frame of mind, being bunged up with a cold and feeling close to death...
I gave up in the end :rolleyes:
Nope but I've never had a rubber boot on there, it was missing when I got the bike.
I'm not sure you'd want to fit the rubber boot anyway Steve, as the LED bulbs have cooling fans inbuilt (or so I believe)
Quote from: gsxbarmy on Wednesday, 23 May 2018, 07:51 AM
I'm not sure you'd want to fit the rubber boot anyway Steve, as the LED bulbs have cooling fans inbuilt (or so I believe)
I wanted to fit it as a waterproofing precaution..I'm away for a few days now, but I'll have another look at it when I get home next week.
Yes they will either have cooling fans or big heat sinks. Either way you don't want to restrict the flow of air. You'd need to go underwater before enough of the wet stuff got into the headlight bowl to bother them. Don't worry about the rubber boot just leave it off. :onya:
I'm thinking of trying this one as a complete replacement. From my measurements this should fit nicely inside the existing headlight surround. Has anyone else fitted this ?
https://www.stedi.com.au/stedi-7-inch-led-headlight.html
Cheers,
Eric
They have a few inreresting products, I've actually just bought a little Stedi light bar to try out to give me an indication of their quality. Seems like a lot of people looking at doing the same thing at once on here