Hulloo,
I was lucky enough to teach English and bike around Japan last year, I came back in April of this year and bought my GSX as a treat to myself. Over there they acknowledged other bikers quite a bit with all kinds of gestures, waves and nods...but coming back here to the UK...barely anyone seems to do the "nod" anymore.
Did an email go out to all bikers from some office or other asking people to stop it? It's pretty noticeable in my area of West Yorkshire, how is it for everyone else?
I know some like to do it, some don't, but the majority of people I pass, they just don't.
We still have it down under, more so on the open road as opposed to the city, but it's a very rare thing to get any sort of acknowledgement from a Hardly rider.
you want to try riding a r1200gs after riding 60 plus bikes over the years,because i nod to them they dont know what to do!! ps i do not wear POLITE vest :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I find out and about at weekends down A / Country Roads and generally you'll get a nod or a wave from bikers going the other way.
During the week or on motorways - a very rare ocassion!
Very common in New Zealand to get a nod or a wave from fellow riders.
As Col says, there is an exception......Harley riders are too far up themselves to be part of this practice.
Here in southern Poland, albeit on my first low mileage ride, every biker gave me a wave.
Here the vast majority gives a wave or lifts their fingers.
Over here in dark deepest East Yorkshire - most of us nod. Even police & paramedics.
There are some that don't nod. I'll give you a clue - HD. But, in general normal bikers nod.
Most Nod in South Wales - except HD persons of course :smile2:
...... should I get some Tasseled Bar Ends so I look more Harley ?? :rofl2:
Quote from: Kiwifruit on Tuesday, 08 August 2017, 06:59 AM
...... should I get some Tasseled Bar Ends so I look more Harley ?? :rofl2:
:thumbs_down: :facepalm: :facepalm:
I always wave or nod, usually get a response except hogs and the odd GS rider.
Quote from: Kiwifruit on Tuesday, 08 August 2017, 06:59 AM
...... should I get some Tasseled Bar Ends so I look more Harley ?? :rofl2:
also need the standard HD 'miserable' face - difficult when on a 14!
i always nod... its The Code - BUT never to a Learner...
i may be controversial here but i firmly believe you earn your Nod thru time and you gotta cut your teeth before wearing your stripes and getting a nod
I do miles and miles in Europe and the Nod or hand lift is to/given to 99% i see and who see me
anyone that doesn't i shout "rude (*$^&&)(*) ) in my lid
Stoli
I have to agree with you Stoli, but if a learner nods at me first I always nod back, we have to encourage them to continue and earn their stripes, otherwise they might consider us to be the same as the HD pirates we complain about :whistling:
Quote from: mjgt on Tuesday, 08 August 2017, 06:21 PM
I have to agree with you Stoli, but if a learner nods at me first I always nod back, we have to encourage them to continue and earn their stripes, otherwise they might consider us to be the same as the HD pirates we complain about :whistling:
sorry - i actually look away like a petulant child not being given sweets...!!
Aint nodding to no learner !!! you earn it
Its 50/50 round here but when i see a Harley i exagerate a wave and that usually illicits a respons of some kind ( sometimes not a nice one :devil: :stir:) But when im on my Rocket and a Harley comes the other way they cower and lower their head..
Yes if the learner or even a large scooter rider nods first then I nod back. Some of them are just commuters and use the bike because they have to, which is fine, but they will be short term bikers and not interested.
I have stopped acknowledging cruiser riders before they do so first as I find they do not often respond.
Nod - around the East Mids. this still seems to be the norm.
In Scotland I have noticed a lot more of a raised left hand - works better on a tourer with a big screen.
In the past 12 months I have ridden in Spain, France, Switzerland, Italy, Germany, Austria, Luxembourg and Belgium and they pretty much all seem to favour the left hand/arm slightly down to the left with a few using the left leg.
Just before I arrive at a place where there are lots of bikers, Matlock on a Sunday for example, there seems to be a point on the road where nodding and waving stops as you would be doing it all the time.
Obviously riding on the side that we do in the UK a signal with the right hand would be more visible but impractical as you have to release the twist grip to do that. Before headlights were permanently on a flash of the high beam seemed to be becoming popular.
Thinking back 40 years to when I started biking a wave was the most popular.
Been on some charity rides and have come across idiots with L plates. Dont like to be around them. Just not predictable.
So i do see Stoli's point about earning their stripes.
That said i will respond if they wave or nod first.
used to wave or nod years ago. thinking about now in my area, scooter riders never wave so i dont ever. hardlys i never bother, nor do they. have you noticed how hardly riders look straight ahead if youre next to them at lights, happens all the time to me. then they take off as fast as they can on green. hate the sound. indian riders are getting same attitude. boulevard are same. noisy bloody things. love their back tyres, like a rockets, huge. everyone else i like to lift a finger or nod, they are enjoying. sports riders usually too busy going fast. if i pull up next door at lights, i always say g,day to who ever on a bike. im having a good time so i just say hello. its all about having and enjoying your ride. i dont get into the this bike is better than another thing, we know our 14 are awesome, if they dont, well bad luck. they are missing out. just my thoughts.
It's sad but true that the Harley folks just don't get it. It's as if they have blinkers on or something. I used to ride a Victory, sweet ride but can get lonely on the highway.
Been riding for a long time and the lone rider is the friendliest rider on the road. They wave / nod and even pull over when your stopped.
It's the two by two's that piss me off. Roar past as if imitating Mick Doohan and Casey Stoner out for the fan-tango blast on the open road. Young-ins. Just tools. 'Look at us' attitude.
Then the large camel train of 10 or more shooting down the highway. The odd one waves / nods but generally the last guy at the end. Generally 99% of the time, Strange. Must be the mature one coming up the rear.
Anyway .... it was quite nice in the early years but unfortunately things change. Such is life. I just love my bike and wife. I try as much as possible for the three of us to head out and look around our country side. How sweet it is. And when people acknowledge us, well that's just dandy too.
tigers love swans, staple diet. i like those victory, shop in melbourne the best bike shop ive ever seen, thats lots. your thoughts on victory, just for interest. brilliant names, high ball etc. a lone biker is just a good way to be, i prefer it. not watching others just your surroundings.
We all go through trying different bikes. Had a new 2009 KingPin for 5 years. Great ride, magic V-twin, pulled like a tractor and handled sweet (and wasn't a Harley). I highly recommend them. Reliable and stunning and easy riding without the show.
It's long gone but I still have the Suzi in the picture (all be it in bits at the moment getting a refresh).
Right now I love the 1400. Funny that. How you find your way back to what you love.
Just as an aside to the Victory postings, I see Polaris have closed production on Victory motorbikes, they brought Indian & are going to focus on that instead, so bye bye Victory. Shame as they were some very nice looking machines.
Thanks for the replies guys, interesting stuff!
I've continued to nod away to myself while riding since posting this thread, definitely noticeable the nods have diminished in my area.
depending on where I'm riding I'll nod or wave
of overtaking I'll put a hand out or do the europe thing of dropping leg off the peg for a second on there side.
sometimes also do the leg drop if on single road on the middle of the road side
:cheers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WErEXr1AVV4
:rofl2: :rofl2:
Harley's get a gay wave from me! or return the point-to-the-ground - not sure why they do that - I guess I should look down for sum-it!
:whatever:
stan
Got a wave from a Harley rider yesterday (marked it on the calendar :confused1: ) and nods of a half dozen pedestrians. For the nods of the bipeds I have a few explanations:
1. Nice shiny 14
2. Original cans
3. Considerate riding
4. They can see my face because of me wearing a jet helmet
The Harley guy? I don't have any idea. Oh wait, he thought I was riding a Harley or he had a mental lapse or was a normal biker who took a friends Harley for a test ride.
Hd is well dark side and who want a nod or even give a nod to the dark side
Let em by they in a hurry to polish there bike !!!
Was out for a ride yesterday. Most gave me a nod or a wave.
Just out of interest, how do you warn others of Mr Plod ?
Left hand up (above your helmet) index finger pointing skyward & whirling your hand around to imitate the old fashioned whirling police lights.
Quote from: Kiwifruit on Monday, 04 September 2017, 02:11 AM
Was out for a ride yesterday. Most gave me a nod or a wave.
Just out of interest, how do you warn others of Mr Plod ?
Thumbs down "replacement" wave
Here it's a bit more emphatic.... flat hand pushed down....basically saying slow down and take care. Very visible and works every time.
Quote from: ARH on Monday, 04 September 2017, 04:11 AM
Here it's a bit more emphatic.... flat hand pushed down....basically saying slow down and take care. Very visible and works every time.
as in putting the brakes on
Quote from: KiwiCol on Monday, 04 September 2017, 03:04 AM
Left hand up (above your helmet) index finger pointing skyward & whirling your hand around to imitate the old fashioned whirling police lights.
Ok thats what i've always done. Flat hand too.
Saw a couple of guys riding with the tap well open heading towards a moving Mr Plod i had passed about a K back. Hope they got my signal.
headlight flash works for me. illegal but i do it. just hope its not a cop or a hardly rider. the hardly riders can go faster, get caught, not caring.
You evil man Grog !! :rofl2:
I regularly ride out with a Harley rider (I am his only biker friend ) and he does nod to all but very few nod back - I am always following up the rear (as he couldn't stay with me if I led !!) anyway, they ignore him but nod to me !! so its an anti Harley thing .... Oh and motorway speed limit on a Harley seems to be 65-70 and not 100 as it is on the 1400 Lol.. :smile2:
Last ride out was to Riders of Bristol( Harley dealer ) where they had a Tractor for sale at £26,000 ( last years model apparently ) and that wasn't the cheapest !!
"The Antidote to Average" ... :rofl2: Certainly brings the average way down, Not the price though.
Notty, your mates' seat looks way more comfy than ours does. That new red thing - eeeeew. From what I can see in the pic, it looks like something from the 1940's - 1950's! Not for this kid. I couldn't afford it, but it's also not something I'd aspire to own either. Now a K1600GLE, that's different!
I nod/wave to everyone, although I've noticed more don't acknowledge. More so when on xv1900 cfd, lots think it's a Harley. Feel like sticking a big sign on bat fairing "NOT a Harley"
Same as gsxjohn..
I git sick of being ignored by none-nodders so a few miles later I ignore an oncoming biker only to discover he nodded !!!
He then thinks to himself "ignorant ***" and so inadvertently I have perpetuated the problem. :angry:
Quote from: KiwiCol on Tuesday, 05 September 2017, 03:16 AM
Notty, your mates' seat looks way more comfy than ours does. That new red thing - eeeeew. From what I can see in the pic, it looks like something from the 1940's - 1950's! Not for this kid. I couldn't afford it, but it's also not something I'd aspire to own either. Now a K1600GLE, that's different!
£600 apparently - but wow it is comfortable but they don't do one for the 14 :smile2:
That is a lot for a seat, I must try & find an old seat from a wrecker / dismantler & have it customised to suit my size. Don't want to use the original as I might not like it once I get it. Can get them on e-bay from France, but they cost heaps with shipping to get them here, over $1000! & I'm not shelling out that sort of dosh for a seat if I can't try it out first, I'd spend the k, but have to be sure it's a great fit first.
i never speed, i always observe the limits. i never do anything remotely dangerous or anything to make the Rozzers think "ello ello ello..."
my bike is completely standard and is as quiet as a mouse...
if explaining that to the Plod doesn't work i simply say "eh" and pretend I'm deaf or i say "noey spekidy de luinguidy" and hope that works !!!
gulp!
Well I've no doubt about it. Since posting this thread I've had umpteen days riding around and offering the "nod" out...nothing in return...nothing.
You're right there Jack, it's even spread to down under. I still get the occasional wave / nod but they're getting very few & far between nowadays. Could be because there are more Hardlys on the roads these days? I still wave out or nod to approaching riders, too bad if they don't want to be friendly.
I always nod, but I agree with you guys - fewer and fewer people nodding back.
Harleys I would expect, but I don't know what's happening with everyone else.
Been pretty good round the North Island.....even getting the odd nod in return from the chromed compressor brigade. :onya:
Nice Col, maybe the tide is turning?
I feel the older I get, the less I have in common with many riders I meet.
I'm in one "local" S/E Qld group that has over 8000 members but they are
mostly young, many think cruisers like the 500 Harley's are cool, have very
little experience, they regularly crash, know everything thanks to google and
think its super cool to hate car drivers, cops, roadworks etc.
Its a different generation, and one I find I have very little in common with.
I'm the typical grumpy old man.
Lots of the more "mature" riders here have Harley's.
I find I have less in common with them the the kids on learner sportsbikes!
I might nod to another 14 or B-King.
living in same area Tony, i agree. Harley attitude is bad. even been spat at at lights. i have some harley mates, talking to them about owning a suzuki is like talking as if i have a good game at golf, just not interested. young blokes on bikes, dont even know what my bike is, also not interested. strange world these days. i try to know something about all bikes, new, old etc. even the harlys. seems a lost art on young uns and harly riders. all about pose.
Lets face it - its all Honda's fault :facepalm:
I am with you on this Tony. I do find the occasional like-minded fellow. So far these have in common that they have a broad interest in bikes (and things in general), do most of the work on it themselves, and are common-sense guys.
Like us, Andre.
Grog, we couldn't spit back as we're wearing a full face helmet, maybe, just maybe, they're spitting the bugs out at the lights! :lol: :jack:
Quote from: KiwiCol on Sunday, 08 October 2017, 06:38 PM
Like us, Andre.
Yes Col, that is why I love it here!!! :cheers:
I meet so many riders that apparently don't go anywhere!
They go to the local bike meet,
They go to the local Mt G / Mt Mee for a coffee,
a big day out is a lap of the dam.
I post up pics of a night out at 1770 or a weekend doing the Oxley,
a weekend at Dubbo, meeting mates at Macksville to do Waterfall Way
etc (all 1000+K weekends) and they react as if I've just done slap of the planet!
Many admit that they've never done more than a couple of hours in
the seat in a day.
When we were teens we thought the Middle of England to the Welsh coast
and back was a normal Saturday, 350+K round trip and we all had 125's !
agree again Tony, we flogged our 250s, then got 750s, lots of ks every weekend, at speeds i cant believe we did. i did 14th ks on my first gt750 in just under 4 months. i thought it the fastest bike in the world. then came z900. another leap. honda 4s sliding on centrestands at 160, we had great times, lots of us still talk about it, same blokes from then. off to the coffe shop just doesnt do it for me.
Yes boys, these young guys now are not bike enthusiasts etc, but just think they are cool because they ride a bike to the coffee shop and get to walk around in cool gear & carry a helmet.
:jack:
Generally I agree with the sentiment about the young guys. Did meet a young guy the other day on his CB 1300. He is restoring a Honda VFR400 (early 90's). Also has a Moto Morini in his garage, which he picked up in Italy and rode home. Also told me about how much he enjoyed his ride to Montenegro (over 4000 km round trip). Obviously he has a taste for speed, but chose to ride the CB that day as he also enjoys just meandering. Showed a keen interest in the 14 (and this old guy).
Yes I to have noticed that there is an element of bikers out there that don't nod or say hello ..... why .... is it not cool to nod to fellow bikers after all if I see a bike is trouble at the road side I will pull over and ask if I can help , even if it's just to give a lift or use the phone to help ,,, hey call me old fashioned ....... I don't see my bike as a fashion statement ........it's my love and the love of bikes .... that's why we are here
I used to find all sorts of people would nod to me on the 14 including Harley riders but I do notice not nearly so many nod when I'm on the Guzzi although I do get quite a few disgusted or horrified looks when it's parked-I think that's par for the course with an evolved rat bike though ;) As for younger riders I notice alot of animosity towards the younger hipster crowd on forums saying that they're just buying a lifestyle or only in it as a fad but the ones I've met and spoken with in real life seem to ride practically all year round, alot have no other transport than their bike, and many of them do all or most of their own work on bikes-now to my mind that makes the hipster crowd far more "biker" than many of the others!
Fair point Dave. I see a few youngsters on smaller bikes in wet weather, always make a point of acknowledging them. Bike was my only transport when i was a young fella.
Well I always wave or nod at other bikers on the road, last week I got two replies from the local constabulary :onya:
16 to maybe 19, my transport was motorbike. no car. i thought i hated those early starts, bloody old ariel for first year. bitch to start, wish i had it now. i guess i liked bikes, kept upgrading them, couldve bought a car. 18 yr old on new gt750, electric start, was in heaven. 14 th ks in 3 mths. i waved to mates, never thought about nodding to older riders. same applies now im guessing. at that age i knew every stat on every bike, read till my eyes hurt. im guessing theres young hipster bikers who dont wave, as much or more knowledge at same age.
A few of my mates have talked about this. We all decided that Hardley riders, Gs riders and anyone on a Dutwati (Ducati) don't nod back.
Its the same when you pull up or in a place when you have pulled up and other bikers come in.
Hardley riders show that they have changed money into noise but not motion and seem to think that because they are riding a Hardley they are above us all.
Gs's riders think they are have the ultimate go anywhere bike and because Euwan and Charlie went around the world on one that they are superior.
Dutwati riders always arrive and get off and look to see who has noticed they are on a Dutwati with a look that says " hello ive arrived I'm on a Dutwati don't you know" this lot always seem to have full Dainese leathers and race replica helmet.
All the above don't seem to acknowledge any other biker.
As for people on L plates I always give them a nod back.
Quote from: Granty on Monday, 20 August 2018, 08:38 PM
A few of my mates have talked about this. We all decided that Hardley riders, Gs riders and anyone on a Dutwati (Ducati) don't nod back.
Its the same when you pull up or in a place when you have pulled up and other bikers come in.
Hardley riders show that they have changed money into noise but not motion and seem to think that because they are riding a Hardley they are above us all.
Gs's riders think they are have the ultimate go anywhere bike and because Euwan and Charlie went around the world on one that they are superior.
Dutwati riders always arrive and get off and look to see who has noticed they are on a Dutwati with a look that says " hello ive arrived I'm on a Dutwati don't you know" this lot always seem to have full Dainese leathers and race replica helmet.
All the above don't seem to acknowledge any other biker.
As for people on L plates I always give them a nod back.
I always nod or wave at all bikes (not scooter's), I also have a Ducati Monster 1200s and don't have race rep leathers or race rep helmet but still wave maybe it's just your lot who think they are special. Cant argue with you on Hardleys or GS's though.
I always wave/flash a headlight or the European thing if dropping a leg at other 2 wheel riders not really bothered if they wave back or not I just acknowledge them so they know someone else shares the same road and weather.
Mostly they wave back or acknowledge in some way .
😎
I got 2 waves from Harley riders this last weekend, they were travelling together, I just waved & they both waved back! I was very pleasantly shocked at the acknowledgement. So, some of them are normal people who do wave to other riders.
Here in Estonia, 99% riders wave or nod to each other. Regardless Harley or sport bikes.
I have theory, why in some countries it's happening more or less - it's all depending how exclusive bikes are for the region. For example in Thailand nobody will wave, otherwise you will have no time to deal with steering :) .
Here, where most of the time of the year, weather is not OK for riding, motorcycle is more hobby vehicle, than transportation. So waiving is like club "handshake".
Also, I notice - the worst weather condition are, the more friendly and enthusiastic wave is :) . Meaning: "Buddy, I know what you feel! We be of one blood, ye and I" ©
You could be onto something there Northern, sounds quite reasonable. The weekend, was a nice day for a ride, but not many bikes were actually out, in summer when lots of bikes out, not so much waving.
Most rider here will wave (or nod when pulling the clutch) regardless of what they ride. Can't say about the weekends as I avoid them due to many Sunday drivers/riders/cyclists on the roads. Just to many obstacles :thumbs_down:
What I find strange is that when I'm out on the 14 I usually get a nod or wave,but when I use my little Suzuki Address ,moto gp colours ,I might add,i I've passed loads of bikers but it's as though I'm invisible to them, I'm usually wearing my proper bike gear as well as a full face arai helmet,,,strange,isn't it..?
I saw an Address the other day for the first time. First impression was scooter with tall wheels. Not surprised bikers won't greet you.
I'm going to google that bike n have a look. I don't know what it is either.
Is this you Daytona?
Col, that looks like the Address 110. The one I saw was the Address 125
https://web.archive.org/web/20130606183056/http://www.globalsuzuki.com/motorcycle/moto/street/FL125/spec.html (https://web.archive.org/web/20130606183056/http://www.globalsuzuki.com/motorcycle/moto/street/FL125/spec.html)
Yeeeees, well, probably economical I suppose, but so is walking . . . besides, my frame is too big for that frame.
Here in the UK (though there are regional differences) you dont generally nod to scooters or learners... Its as if, and i have heard it said " they are not proper bikes " I nod to all the ones in proper gear and if they nod first.. However if they are in shorts and T-shirt and wearing flip flops on their feet and have bags of shopping hanging off their bars then they get the finger..... They are lucky i dont push them off.
I don't wave a scooters (unless they wave first) but I do wave at learners on proper bikes. Some think they have not earned the right but they are on two wheels, face the same difficulties and problems I face and have to put up with the roads and weather I think they have earned the right. If they are ignored by the biking community and not encouraged to take up biking they may turn into another ignorant car driver.
No col that's not me,I'm about double the size of him and mines the faster moto gp colours,,,looks like I have to accept that when I'm nipping into town etc on it I'm no longer a "biker" then, yarp,
Quote from: mjgt on Tuesday, 21 August 2018, 07:37 PM
I don't wave a scooters (unless they wave first) but I do wave at learners on proper bikes. Some think they have not earned the right but they are on two wheels, face the same difficulties and problems I face and have to put up with the roads and weather I think they have earned the right. If they are ignored by the biking community and not encouraged to take up biking they may turn into another ignorant car driver.
To be fair scooter riders have to put up with the same as us and with lower top speeds small fuel ranges and little wheels does make life hard for them .
They might not have proper bikes but should earn respect for putting up with the same crap as we do.
I have friends that travel big distances and tour on scooters .
:cheers:
Good point Seth but it a scooter FFS. :devil:
I know what you think but they are on 2 wheels just like us .potholes and bad road surfaces affect them even more and they have much less power than "real bikes".
I go to an occasional scooter rally they are great fun and different but in a good way.
:cheers:
Reckon I've got this wrong to me a scooter is a Vespa or lambretta that the mods have,now where's me tracky bottoms a me black hoodie?
Sorry yes to clarify I'm on about proper scooterist not bike stealing neds.
:onya:
Flippin ekk Seth not am I only not a biker ,im now a thief that rides round nicking stuff,,lol,
No no
@Daytona your far to old to be a ned.
I'd wave to you :smiley sign0181:
:stir:
Cheers Seth,gonna put my two tone suit on now a listen to some ska.
Not sure why we need to create some kind of biking apartheid system. Scooters, learners, Harley's, GS riders, Ducati ('Dutwati'?)... they are all on 2 wheels, which is fine by me.
Bicycles, on the other hand ... don't get me started :furious:
Quote from: Mister Fishfinger on Tuesday, 21 August 2018, 09:05 PM
Not sure why we need to create some kind of biking apartheid system. Scooters, learners, Harley's, GS riders, Ducati ('Dutwati'?)... they are all on 2 wheels, which is fine by me.
Bicycles, on the other hand ... don't get me started :furious:
I cant believe you just said that.....
I was with you 100% untill you said Hardleys too........ :stir: :lol: :stir: :furious:
Quote from: Proteous on Tuesday, 21 August 2018, 09:42 PM
Quote from: Mister Fishfinger on Tuesday, 21 August 2018, 09:05 PM
Not sure why we need to create some kind of biking apartheid system. Scooters, learners, Harley's, GS riders, Ducati ('Dutwati'?)... they are all on 2 wheels, which is fine by me.
Bicycles, on the other hand ... don't get me started :furious:
I cant believe you just said that.....
I was with you 100% untill you said Hardleys too........ :stir: :lol: :stir: :furious:
It's fair to say I'm not here for the "likes" ;)
My approach is to wave to everyone on a 2 wheeled petrol engine powered machine that I ride past......... and swear like trooper at them (in my helmet) if they don't wave back. Hardley drivers get the more choice swear words! :happy1:
Cyclists?..... don't get me started on that one again :furious:
I wonder if anyone sells armoured lycra outfits for bikers so we could feel akin to those nice cyclists :whistling: :stir: :rofl2: :rofl2:
Quote from: gsxbarmy on Wednesday, 22 August 2018, 12:46 AM
I wonder if anyone sells armoured lycra outfits for bikers so we could feel akin to those nice cyclists :whistling: :stir: :rofl2: :rofl2:
Oi!! Enough of that :redcard: :rofl2:
Quote from: gsxbarmy on Wednesday, 22 August 2018, 12:46 AM
I wonder if anyone sells armoured lycra outfits for bikers so we could feel akin to those nice cyclists :whistling: :stir: :rofl2: :rofl2:
There's no need for that, they come way below scooters and there is no argument Seth can put up to change that.
Nope none from me :deadhorse:
OK - was it the word "Lycra" that was controversial :whistling: :rofl2: :rofl2:
Did you say 'LYCRA' ................... Blasphemer !! :facepalm:
Quote from: Kiwifruit on Thursday, 23 August 2018, 08:50 AM
Did you say 'LYCRA' ................... Blasphemer !! :facepalm:
Well, all depends on whos wearing them really . . .
I also wave at all bikes but not scooters (gotta draw a line somewhere)
My experience has been with most bikes it's pretty random. but Hardly Dignified riders almost never wave back and the dirt bike/knobbly tyre brigade rarely do.
The dirt bike / knobbly tyred brigade would probably be shocked that someone waved to them in the first place, they're probably just stunned Mike & don't know how to react. :happy1:
Young fella on a scooter waved to me yesterday. So l waved back. To his credit he had proper riding gear, a schoòl bag on his back......good man. :clapping: