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Title: JIS Screwdrivers ?
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Tuesday, 11 July 2017, 04:38 PM
JIS (Japanese Industrial Standard) screwdrivers.  Anyone using them ?

Worth having ? Where / which did you buy ?


I'm a bit of a tool hoarder and collector and like my toys so I'm tempted to try a set, just wondered if anyone has any actual experience other than i saw it on the Internet.

http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-tools/jis-screwdrivers/
Title: Re: JIS Screwdrivers ?
Post by: Kiwifruit on Tuesday, 11 July 2017, 04:42 PM
Their left handed screwdriver is just the best.
:stir:
Title: Re: JIS Screwdrivers ?
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Tuesday, 11 July 2017, 04:42 PM
Putting JIS Screwdrivers into google gives a lot of mostly positive results....

http://revlimiter.net/blog/2014/09/the-japanese-phillips-jis-screwdrivers/
Title: Re: JIS Screwdrivers ?
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Tuesday, 11 July 2017, 04:44 PM
Quote from: Kiwifruit on Tuesday, 11 July  2017, 04:42 PM
Their left handed screwdriver is just the best.
:stir:

So I need a left handed JIS Screwdriver....  :frustrated:


I'm left handed !
(Except I shoot right handed as I never saw a left handed gun in my early years)
Title: Re: JIS Screwdrivers ?
Post by: RickC on Tuesday, 11 July 2017, 07:50 PM
I bought a set from ebay a while ago, can't say enough good things about them.

If I'd found them years ago I would have had a few less rounded screws in bikes, not so
much of a problem today but they lock in nicely to the screws and don't round out like a normal Phillips head.

These are what I bought, cost me $10 or $15 dollars more a year ago, you'd be mad not to try them for $25.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Hozan-JIS-4-JIS-Screwdriver-Set-Japan-import-Free-shipping-/262744940493?epid=693424035&hash=item3d2cd19fcd:g:pYcAAOSw7ehXQ-ti
Title: Re: JIS Screwdrivers ?
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Tuesday, 11 July 2017, 08:18 PM
Thanks Rick.
That backs up what I've been hearing.

:onya:
Title: Re: JIS Screwdrivers ?
Post by: grog on Tuesday, 11 July 2017, 09:02 PM
Agree, jis works better. I only have one, like no. 2 phillips. Never got round to buying set. Hozan, vessell and sunflag all top quality jap stuff. I have sunflag thats been flogged for 40 yrs, still as new. 20 of those daily mechanic use.
Title: Re: JIS Screwdrivers ?
Post by: VladTepes on Thursday, 23 June 2022, 11:20 AM
Do JIS drivers work better in phillips screws than phillips drivers?

Is there an easy way looking at a screw to identify the difference?
Title: Re: JIS Screwdrivers ?
Post by: Eric GSX1400K3 on Thursday, 23 June 2022, 01:01 PM
Yes, I have the Japanese made Vessel set and they grip Phillips head screws better than my German made Phillips screwdrivers.

Note though, a Phillips screwdriver will most likely strip out the JIS screw, but not the other way around.
Title: Re: JIS Screwdrivers ?
Post by: KiwiCol on Thursday, 23 June 2022, 01:52 PM
Isn't there a dot on the head of a JIS bolt? Or is that just on some?

I've misplaced my good JIS screwdriver, bloody annoying,  but guess its oletimers beginning to set in . .
Title: Re: JIS Screwdrivers ?
Post by: VladTepes on Thursday, 23 June 2022, 02:50 PM
OK set of 4 JIS screwdrivers ordered :)
Title: Re: JIS Screwdrivers ?
Post by: froudy on Thursday, 23 June 2022, 04:35 PM
Quote from: KiwiCol on Thursday, 23 June  2022, 01:52 PM
Isn't there a dot on the head of a JIS bolt? Or is that just on some?



Correct. JIS screws do have a dot on the head to identify them :onya:

From memory(which isn't too good these days) there aren't many JIS screws on the GSX1400. The only ones I can think of are the ones that clamp the two parts of the handlebar switch gear together.
Title: Re: JIS Screwdrivers ?
Post by: grog on Thursday, 23 June 2022, 07:15 PM
They will work fine Vlad. 
Title: Re: JIS Screwdrivers ?
Post by: Eric GSX1400K3 on Thursday, 23 June 2022, 09:08 PM
Quote from: KiwiCol on Thursday, 23 June  2022, 01:52 PM
Isn't there a dot on the head of a JIS bolt? Or is that just on some?

I've misplaced my good JIS screwdriver, bloody annoying,  but guess its oletimers beginning to set in . .

Yes apparently on most made in Japan items, can't say I've ever paid attention if they do though.....
Title: Re: JIS Screwdrivers ?
Post by: 1AW022 on Thursday, 23 June 2022, 09:34 PM
I bought a set when I had the VFR

Very handy... and the only thing that would get some of the screws out

One's an impact style... give it a whack and it turns about 10 degrees
Title: Re: JIS Screwdrivers ?
Post by: Hooli on Friday, 24 June 2022, 01:13 AM
Quote from: froudy on Thursday, 23 June  2022, 04:35 PM
Quote from: KiwiCol on Thursday, 23 June  2022, 01:52 PM
Isn't there a dot on the head of a JIS bolt? Or is that just on some?



Correct. JIS screws do have a dot on the head to identify them :onya:

From memory(which isn't too good these days) there aren't many JIS screws on the GSX1400. The only ones I can think of are the ones that clamp the two parts of the handlebar switch gear together.

The ones that hold the headlight in undo a lot better with JIS drivers, as do the tops of the fluid reservoirs, air filter retainers and others I've probably forgot.
Title: Re: JIS Screwdrivers ?
Post by: Tally on Friday, 24 June 2022, 01:48 AM
J.i.s screwdrivers work very well in Phillips head I have a set and like hooli says they're perfect for the little screws on the bike as they lock a lot better. Got them off e-bay, not expensive either.
Title: Re: JIS Screwdrivers ?
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Friday, 24 June 2022, 03:46 AM
After starting this thread I bought 2 sets. Both identical sets of 4 by Vessel.  I originally bought them to use on JIS screws but having them sat there at hand I do use them on other screws too and haven't had a drama with it. I like them and they work fine.

I'm not sure how much is the fact they are JIS type,  or how much is due to the fact they are new and quality,  or how much is psychological in that I think they are going to be better,  but I'm happy with them. 

I'll remain open minded about them, but they certainly don't seem to be a bad thing to have.
Title: Re: JIS Screwdrivers ?
Post by: Irish in Oz on Friday, 24 June 2022, 05:27 AM
I was removing some internal engine screws from a 1980 Jap bike today, I have always used the bit that comes with the impact kit and I have never had any problems as they are a neat fit. I'll check put which type i used.
Title: Re: JIS Screwdrivers ?
Post by: Irish in Oz on Friday, 24 June 2022, 06:34 AM
PH2, and if you grind the tip a little even better.
Title: Re: JIS Screwdrivers ?
Post by: Hooli on Friday, 24 June 2022, 07:05 AM
I've seen grinding the tip off PH2 suggested as a way to make them fit JIS....
Title: Re: JIS Screwdrivers ?
Post by: Irish in Oz on Friday, 24 June 2022, 07:59 PM
Halfords Impact Set 15Quid. Comes with 1*PH1 2*PH2 1*PH3 1*PH4 plus others as in pic. I ground one of the PH2.