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Title: My 14 is dead!
Post by: Proteous on Thursday, 22 June 2017, 01:57 AM
So... what a fun couple of months i have had with my 14... On the 27th of April i dropped off my baby at RRP in meriden to have a PC III fited.. Now bare in mind that my bike is a 1550 so it should tune nicely...

I have today collected her after paying an 800 quid bill and a bike that does not run!!!

The long and short of it is that i am not happy and trading standards are involved.. I rode the bike in but they have since run it lean on the dyno one to many times and now she smokes and smells... They first thought it was the PCIII so they fitted one of the brand new PC V's but that didnt fix it. What a polava i have been through im so upset and pissed off with the whole experience that im not even going into detail here i just cant.. Some of you on here know what the bike means to me and how she came to be mine after a friend passed and left her to me in his will..

All that said, she is now in my mates garage and about to be diagnosed so i know what she needs to get her back to full glory again.. I was going to offer the PC V for sale, but i will need it when she is back on the road.

Just thought i would sahre my tale of woe..

I am now the proud owner of a Rocket III so im still on the road..
Title: Re: My 14 is dead!
Post by: Notty on Thursday, 22 June 2017, 02:10 AM
Speechless !!!   :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
Title: Re: My 14 is dead!
Post by: Blubber on Thursday, 22 June 2017, 02:45 AM
What is the colour of the smoke?

It could fuel related....  Fingers crossed.

These engine are relatively bullet proof, a little lean wont harm it immediately.

Nevertheless,  they cocked up.
Title: Re: My 14 is dead!
Post by: Blubber on Thursday, 22 June 2017, 02:49 AM
Blue / grey smoke is oil related. Stem seals or piston rings

Black smoke is fuel related.... Over fueling in general.
Title: Re: My 14 is dead!
Post by: seth on Thursday, 22 June 2017, 02:57 AM
hopefully its just a fuel related issue but if seals it'll hopefully be top end as they get hottest in the engine
sad state tho as you just wanted it fixed/running properly not made worse .
good luck and hope its sorted very quickly. 
Title: Re: My 14 is dead!
Post by: gsxbarmy on Thursday, 22 June 2017, 03:39 AM
Ye gods, so much for "professionals" then. That's absolutely terrible - lets hope it hasn't done too much (if any) damage Jay, not good at all. I also hope trading standards come through for you, they are good, but can take a bit of time, even so I think then that you may have to engage a solicitor, so may be worth considering who sooner rather than later.

Maybe try these guys first, I know they are primarily accident, but they may be able to point you in the right direction or advise http://www.whitedalton.co.uk/
Title: Re: My 14 is dead!
Post by: Proteous on Thursday, 22 June 2017, 05:03 AM
Its blue smoke and you can smell the oil..
Hoping it isnt tooo drastic.
Title: Re: My 14 is dead!
Post by: VladTepes on Thursday, 22 June 2017, 11:51 AM
That sucks mate. Hope it comes good.

I can't have my other two admins both permanently riding Triumphs FFS....
Title: Re: My 14 is dead!
Post by: grog on Thursday, 22 June 2017, 07:08 PM
so sad for you mate. really bad stuff. i guess if you didnt pay they kept your bike. heard sim story a little while back, car dyno near my work, it broke the motor, had to tow away. ive heard them absolutely loading the guts out of other cars. thats what your blokes have done. total negligence i reckon. certainly destroys us mechanics, just because you have tools, doesnt mean you know how to use them.
Title: Re: My 14 is dead!
Post by: DanGSX on Thursday, 22 June 2017, 07:30 PM
Hi mate,

Sorry to learn of all your problems you're having. I can't begin to feel what you're going through. I've had a few bad experiences with mechanics damaging my bike and basically looking in all the wrong places for faults, costing more labour.

I reckon plastering your story everywhere would hurt their business more than the cost of setting it right for you.

Keep us posted.  :cheers:
Title: Re: My 14 is dead!
Post by: Sweaty on Thursday, 22 June 2017, 08:29 PM
Sorry to read your shitty post. Hope it works out for you  :onya:
Title: Re: My 14 is dead!
Post by: Andre on Thursday, 22 June 2017, 11:10 PM
Sorry for this but it could be worse. Imagine the mechanic was a medical doctor and did something equivalent to one of your loved ones. Been there. Lots of incompetent people out there. Bet we all have seen shit of this kind. And then you have to pay for their crap with money and emotions.
Title: Re: My 14 is dead!
Post by: Stolichnaya on Thursday, 22 June 2017, 11:13 PM
This is such sad news, i know what the bike mans to you - we talked at length about it bud...

sending wishes it gets sorted easily and hassle free

Stoli
Title: Re: My 14 is dead!
Post by: Kiwifruit on Friday, 23 June 2017, 12:51 PM
Sorry to hear of your bike woes. Hope its not costly to repair.
Dont think i could hold my hand out for payment after giving you back a bike that wont go. Certainly not for £800 !!
Title: Re: My 14 is dead!
Post by: RickC on Friday, 23 June 2017, 08:13 PM
I hope you get it sorted.

Your 1550 is a special bike.

Cheers,
Rick
Title: Re: My 14 is dead!
Post by: Mrg on Saturday, 24 June 2017, 05:03 PM
Sad story I hope you get sorted and you sue the ass off the wankers .mans bike is his pride .good luck
Title: Re: My 14 is dead!
Post by: Proteous on Sunday, 25 June 2017, 02:24 AM
So, Update... My *trusted* mechanic friend has had time to have a look and it appears that it may not be as dyer as first thought or as bad as the dyno place said.. Innitial thinking (before the engine breakdown) after cylinder inspection with endoscope is that it may just be valve seals. |Doesnt seem to be enough smoke for rings (still not ruling them out though.)

So, first thing first is to order some valve seals and crack dem engine bolts.. Maybe not in that order... we will see.

Oh and thank you all for your comments..
Title: Re: My 14 is dead!
Post by: Proteous on Saturday, 05 August 2017, 01:17 PM
OK so, a quick update..

It would appear that i need rings..

I contacted Rich rom TTS (the guy who did the original build) and he remembers the bike thank god because pre 2004 JE did not mark their pistons with any sort of identification codes. Fortunately we were still able to identify the exact size and so i have now ordered the rings and they should arrive from JE within the week.. So, here starts the rebuild!
Title: Re: My 14 is dead!
Post by: VladTepes on Saturday, 05 August 2017, 02:53 PM
Hope yet !
Title: Re: My 14 is dead!
Post by: gsxbarmy on Saturday, 05 August 2017, 03:15 PM
Excellent news ! And how goes the claim against the dyno guys are they footing the rebuild bill?
Title: Re: My 14 is dead!
Post by: Proteous on Saturday, 05 August 2017, 10:03 PM
Nope, and the fact that its rings helps their case, as they can go at any time.. My best chance now is to just raise a charge back with the bank and see if i can at least get the labour money i paid back.
Title: Re: My 14 is dead!
Post by: Bob on Sunday, 06 August 2017, 03:37 AM
Just a thought, rather than new rings why don't you get it bored out to say, 1700  :mwink:

Got to say I find it strange the rings have gone after a few dyno runs, are the bores ok

Anyhow, shit tale of woe, hope you get it sorted at minimal cost, mind post the dyno results ( from a reputable dyno shop )  :cheers:
Title: Re: My 14 is dead!
Post by: seth on Sunday, 06 August 2017, 03:46 AM
not dead buddy just in need of T.L.C.
hope all sorted and back up and running asap
i remember you telling me the story behind the bike so i know what it means to you.

good luck buddy  :onya:
Title: Re: My 14 is dead!
Post by: Proteous on Wednesday, 09 May 2018, 01:44 AM
 :boogie: :boogie2: :hat: :notworthy: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

SHES HOME!!!!!!
After the best part of a year she is home and ready for the road. A lot of the cleaning and tarting up needs some TLC but she lives at last.
Full engine rebuild, new rings, gaskets and valve seals..

Due to the need to be run in before she goes on a dyno i have purchased and fitted an Autotune module so i can keep an eye on the AFR and run on a basic map. Riding her home today was sweet i have to say.
Title: Re: My 14 is dead!
Post by: Latty66 on Wednesday, 09 May 2018, 02:39 AM
Glad to hear its getting there now  how much are ya in the hole up to now mate including the rebuild and that sack o bastards at the dyno
Title: Re: My 14 is dead!
Post by: froudy on Wednesday, 09 May 2018, 05:26 AM
I've only just seen this thread and read the whole lot...
What a total nightmare!!
I'm glad to hear that you're getting it all sorted out at last...I'd be f#cking fuming.
Title: Re: My 14 is dead!
Post by: Mrg on Wednesday, 09 May 2018, 06:54 AM
So happy for you to have the bike back and working very happy for you  :cheers:  :cheers:  :cheers:  :onya:
Title: Re: My 14 is dead!
Post by: seth on Wednesday, 09 May 2018, 07:11 AM
Well done Jay glad it's coming together be good to have it back on the road again  :onya:
Title: Re: My 14 is dead!
Post by: VladTepes on Wednesday, 09 May 2018, 09:17 AM
Wundebar!!!!
Title: Re: My 14 is dead!
Post by: Proteous on Wednesday, 09 May 2018, 07:35 PM
MOT booked for 4pm today. just insured her will tax as soon as the MOT populates to their shite systems.

As for what im in for cost wise i dont want to think about it i was right royally robbed by the so called midlands best tuning company..  :rofl2:  :happy1:
As for the rebuild, not a lot really just parts which totalled to just a couple of hundred quid. A life long friend did the work so a few pints at the next rally.

Let me just say, i now have three bikes on the road, a Rocket III, an MT-09 and the 14. Of all of them the 14 just has something about it..

So glad to be riding her again.
Title: Re: My 14 is dead!
Post by: Sweaty on Wednesday, 09 May 2018, 07:55 PM
Great to hear she is back to life after all your drama's. :clapping:
Title: Re: My 14 is dead!
Post by: VladTepes on Thursday, 10 May 2018, 04:21 PM
3 bikes on the road ?!  Can you tell my wife that's normal please so I can get another couple..... 
Title: Re: My 14 is dead!
Post by: KiwiCol on Thursday, 10 May 2018, 06:09 PM
And chuck in another Rangy too Mick!!
Title: Re: My 14 is dead!
Post by: Proteous on Friday, 11 May 2018, 02:32 AM
Quote from: VladTepes on Thursday, 10 May  2018, 04:21 PM
3 bikes on the road ?!  Can you tell my wife that's normal please so I can get another couple.....

Technically, one of them IS the wifes soooooo you know, thats how i get round it..