this looks good to me. any thoughts. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/121819753682
These things are brilliant though it's probably made in china. I've had a similar thing for a couple of years, just remember to put the safety lock in place when the bikes up, just to be safe.
Looks great to me! I like the scissor type as less space is needed than with other designs and I feel the setup with the bike is more stable that way.
IMO, the so called oil trap is the sparing for easier handling of the rear wheel.
The 200 cm length seems to be a little snag but should be sufficient.
Best thing I have bought, about 50 dollars extra will get you air lift, thats a good price.
@Irish in Oz did you buy that same one? Length work ok?
They really are handy, especially for an old bloke with a crook back. I find the front wheel clamp useless but needed to make a detachable out rigger so the bike can be put on the side stand when you wheel the bike on.
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Tony, yours the same type?
I start the bike up in gear, clutch out and walk it up onto the ramp. Front wheel into the lamp, turn it off with the kill switch. Hold the bike with my right hand, reach down with my left hand and tighten up the front wheel clamp. On mine the front wheel clamp will balance the bike enough to let it go, but its not sable enough to work on it. I then walk around the back and fit the paddock stand. My bikes keys go up onto the ramps under their own power.
Done this, on my own, 50+ year old 80kg bloke with arthritis, hundreds if not thousands of times over the last 10 or 12 years.
Quote from: grog on Tuesday, 23 May 2017, 07:58 PM
Tony, yours the same type?
Mine are Chinese, from Hare and Forbes.
Great when new but both have had issues with the rams over the years. Leaking or going weak. Both have been rebuilt, one twice. When I get around to it I will look into getting them either air or electric powered. I love them, and use them everyday. My favourite "tool" in the shed. If I could turn back time I'd probably go for a better quality one.
I use same technic as Tony to put bike on, however I prefer to use main stand if one fitted.
My one is from Radum, the table length is only 1800mm but I have no problem with that.
No problems with mne as yet and a couple of mates bought same since seeing it.
I don't see any need for the oil drain plate.
A word of warning if your lift has these locking pins avoid using them, was with a guy the other day who did not take it out and proceeded to pump lift up result bent the scissor.
The only other thing is the crank handle is easier to use over the small wheel but they are just minor details, buy one you won't regret it.
I normally use the locking pins (not always, see my Busa pic above)
Then again, I don't drive my car with the handbrake on or change house light bulbs in the dark with the power on. I wouldn't blame the pins for someone's mistake.
When you get to our age you sometimes forget, I'm just warning of the consequences if you do, not blaming the pins, hydraulic jacks are quite powerful.
Quote from: Irish in Oz on Saturday, 27 May 2017, 09:55 AM
When you get to our age you sometimes forget, I'm just warning of the consequences if you do, not blaming the pins, hydraulic jacks are quite powerful.
Certainly worth making folk aware.
Same as if you lower it with the pin in it won't sit square it will twist and tip a little. Won't harm the jack and easy to spot but not good !
Please excuse my ignorance but where do these pins go?
Pete
In my opinion don't bother with them, but if you watch through the hole in deck as pumping up or releasing down you will see locking points. Personally I only use the bottom locking bar that has two height positions. On one occasion the locating pin jammed on me and never used it since. I don't leave the lift up overnight so there is no problem.
Just remembered because I forgot apparently he never used the pins himself his grandson must have put it in, the things I have to look forward to lol
On mine the locking pins only prevent it from coming down, so I cant pump against them and there is no chance of damage to the ramp if it hit them.
Quote from: Snapey on Saturday, 27 May 2017, 03:20 PM
Please excuse my ignorance but where do these pins go?
The locking pins prevent the ramp from collapsing if the hydraulic ram fails, not good if you happen to have anything underneath it.
Mine didn't come with pins, only the bar across the bottom. I've also got a piece of 35 x 35 RHS that goes between the bar & wheels giving me 4 height settings instead of just two.
Settle down Snapey, did you look at my pic with the pin on the deck. Now that you have modified that lift of yours it probably won't have Work Safe approval anyway.
Quote from: mjgt on Saturday, 27 May 2017, 05:18 PM
Quote from: Snapey on Saturday, 27 May 2017, 03:20 PM
Please excuse my ignorance but where do these pins go?
The locking pins prevent the ramp from collapsing if the hydraulic ram fails, not good if you happen to have anything underneath it.
There is a bar that slides in front of the bottom wheels on both mine.
When the ramp is up you fit the bar and let the pressure off the ram.
The ram takes no weight when the ramp is locked up.
I've left mine up for a month locked, not one thing I'd do to a ram.
I put mine up and removed the ram to have the seal changed.
Quote from: Tony Nitrous on Saturday, 27 May 2017, 10:07 PM
I've left mine up for a month locked, not one thing I'd do to a ram.
I put mine up and removed the ram to have the seal changed.
Why did you have to change the seal? Maybe it's because you leave the lift in the "up" position thus exposing the shaft to the elements & rust to form on the Chinese chrome.
In saying that, I leave mine the same way (makes a great table) & not in a garage like you, but a little grease on the shaft & a top up with oil when it doesn't make full height does it for me.
Quote from: Snapey on Sunday, 28 May 2017, 06:40 AM
Quote from: Tony Nitrous on Saturday, 27 May 2017, 10:07 PM
I've left mine up for a month locked, not one thing I'd do to a ram.
I put mine up and removed the ram to have the seal changed.
Why did you have to change the seal? Maybe it's because you leave the lift in the "up" position thus exposing the shaft to the elements & rust to form on the Chinese chrome.
No. Shaft and chrome are fine.
Both of mine have been rebuilt over the years. So have mates who never leave theirs up. Shops were very familiar with doing them "just another cheap Chinese ram".
I cleared some of the shit from my lift today & noticed two holes where obviously these "pins" go. They didn't come with mine & that's why I questioned their existence but just thinking about using them makes me cringe. The shaft that the wheels stop on are all you need.
Irish is that green strap holding the bike up, or the roof down... :D
Easier to work on without a paddock stand in the way or I lift it a little and put the mainstand down, you can do that on the lift and possibly ruin your back and the bike shifts about 6 inches back from the wheel clamp. Roof hasn't blown off yet ;)