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Title: Best model
Post by: Leyther on Wednesday, 17 May 2017, 05:43 AM
As I am on the hunt for a 14 to buy I got to wondering if there are any particular models to go for or possibly avoid. I once owned a K7 and had no real issues however I did go the 4 into 2 route as I preferred the look. I am currently thinking that rather than buy a later model, maybe I should buy a cheaper earlier bike and spend the difference on quality add on items such as suspension for example.
Thoughts appreciated?
Title: Re: Best model
Post by: seth on Wednesday, 17 May 2017, 05:54 AM
depends on what style your looking for
pre k5 twin exhausts k5 on single can

the early one were slightly different .
fork internals
some had 2nd gear problems
early shoxs leaked quicker than later ones
different fuel ingection factory maps
your more likely to get a lower milage bike
other than that pick the paint job you loke and go for it
ive had a k2 did 32000 miles on it had the 2nd gear problem
3 k6's b/w ones all did big miles no real hassle
and a k5 red/black same as the k6

good luck in your search  :cheers:
Title: Re: Best model
Post by: Leyther on Wednesday, 17 May 2017, 06:00 AM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Suzuki-GSX-1400-2006-Red-Black-10-178-Miles-/232307204287?hash=item361696a0bf:g:LgsAAOSwCU1YvX-E

Thanks Seth - whats your thinking on the above if you don't mind?

Title: Re: Best model
Post by: seth on Wednesday, 17 May 2017, 06:37 AM
it needs a new can as the bazooka is to big but thats exactly the same as my k5 apart from that as depending on registration date you got the suzuki/yoshi can mine has the yoshi can
loads of options to change the can tho.
also has hagon nitro shocks an upgrade from standard.
a very nice bike .
not so many about in red &black but same as all the newer models its even cheap
i paid £5000 for mine last year with 6500 miles on it
its now at 14000 lol
Title: Re: Best model
Post by: Kiwifruit on Wednesday, 17 May 2017, 06:39 AM
That looks like a tidy bike. Pretty low milage. Just waiting for someone put a nice can on it !!
Title: Re: Best model
Post by: Steve B on Wednesday, 17 May 2017, 06:59 AM
Quote from: Leyther on Wednesday, 17 May  2017, 06:00 AM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Suzuki-GSX-1400-2006-Red-Black-10-178-Miles-/232307204287?hash=item361696a0bf:g:LgsAAOSwCU1YvX-E

Thanks Seth - whats your thinking on the above if you don't mind?

It was on for 3500 last week....just thought I'd mention that. ;)
Title: Re: Best model
Post by: gsxbarmy on Wednesday, 17 May 2017, 08:04 AM
If you read the description in the auction he'll accept £3,500 (last part of the description)
Title: Re: Best model
Post by: VladTepes on Wednesday, 17 May 2017, 12:21 PM
The best model 1400 is the one you OWN.

That one looks pretty good, not much work needed and nothing obvious that would need immediate attention.
Certainly worth a visit to check it out.
Title: Re: Best model
Post by: Leyther on Wednesday, 17 May 2017, 03:12 PM
Quote from: gsxbarmy on Wednesday, 17 May  2017, 08:04 AM
If you read the description in the auction he'll accept £3,500 (last part of the description)

Correct - added a line that its as low as he can go, Hmmm!
Title: Re: Best model
Post by: Leyther on Wednesday, 17 May 2017, 03:21 PM
Quote from: gsxbarmy on Wednesday, 17 May  2017, 08:04 AM
If you read the description in the auction he'll accept £3,500 (last part of the description)

Thanks Barmy, as has been said above, £3.5 was the starting price last week, might see if I can temp him but its a long way from me and I have been let down buying without seeing in the past, just concerned about the rust at the shock mount, I mean if if that's on a low mile bike that's been stood, what would the more venerable parts be like, I am thinking fork stanchions etc.
Title: Re: Best model
Post by: seth on Wednesday, 17 May 2017, 04:48 PM
the rust is very minor needs a wire brush and  a rattle can of gloss black over it.
the forks look fine but you can only tell by looking at them in the flesh so to speak
the lowers look like they have been polished .
as for the engine casings they all go like that  they can be powder coated for £20 plus postage and a couple of gaskets or polished .
it all depends on how you feel about the bike
and at 12 tear old it might need a new battery soon and check how long the tyres have been on it as when i got my k5 the tyres were like new tread wise but 8 years old (1st replacements after original set)
ok in the dry but lethal in the wet so had to be replaced .
Title: Re: Best model
Post by: Notty on Wednesday, 17 May 2017, 06:18 PM
looks good to me - I have been watching it in case I won the Lottery !!   :smile2:
Title: Re: Best model
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Wednesday, 17 May 2017, 06:31 PM
Quote from: Leyther on Wednesday, 17 May  2017, 06:00 AM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Suzuki-GSX-1400-2006-Red-Black-10-178-Miles-/232307204287?hash=item361696a0bf:g:LgsAAOSwCU1YvX-E

Thanks Seth - whats your thinking on the above if you don't mind?

"Great Example"

Furry cases, scabby frame around the rear shocks, , missing bar end, no rear guard, odd torque arm, looks like a silly (illegal?) rear light with built in indicators. Mileage is low but it doesn't look a "Great Example" to me. 

I'm out of touch with UK prices so it might be OK for the money?
Ask where the bar end mirrors and can went to that were taken off.
Title: Re: Best model
Post by: grog on Wednesday, 17 May 2017, 07:17 PM
id keep looking. needs a fair bit of dollars. great pic of bazooka, one day theyll be worth a fortune.
Title: Re: Best model
Post by: gsxbarmy on Wednesday, 17 May 2017, 07:40 PM
I agree with all of the comments above, there is money to be spent on it, and given the casings etc need work has either been kept outside or is an all weather bike. And why would bits be missing? Stupid advertising like that as it would be better for him to replace those bits rather than advertise as he has.

I think £3,500 is high given it needs work and bits are missing. Going on current UK prices, I'd be looking at about £2,800 tops given the condition. Top examples of 2008 low mileage K7's are selling for about £4,500 and you'd need to spend a fair amount on that one so would be spending similar cash.

Always worth looking down the "Sold" listings to get an idea of how people are buying and prices paid.
Title: Re: Best model
Post by: Red Biker on Wednesday, 17 May 2017, 10:19 PM
I think it's a great example in that it's K5 with low milage and it's Black and Red with upgraded suspension.
Hideous Bazooka aside £100 spent will see it as good as most.

I've removed the rear hugger on mine as I like the look better without it, so to me personally that's not worth anything.
Mine also had rust spots and crappy cases but easily rectified for little dollar and you'd never know! that's half the fun for me taking somthing a bit manky and restoring it to top condition.

At the end of the day as far as value goes, all that matters is Year and milage, so if you like the colour its a good buy IMO.

This looks nice  :grin:
https://www.gumtree.com/p/suzuki-motorbikes/suzuki-gsx-1400/1239107268

If you look at the other private sales on Gumtree the Red/Black looks a bargain!

Cheers
Red
Title: Re: Best model
Post by: Rufus on Wednesday, 17 May 2017, 10:50 PM
Buyer beware on Gumtree!
I used to work for them and the amount of fraud was incredible.

Just for fun, here's an ad i took down when there:

Hi!

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We are very profitable PLC company who aims money by removing children from families and putting for adoption or foster care.
This job is very easy, no experience or education needed.
You will have only 2 tasks to do,- remove children from families and put them for foster care while we will get adoption family as far as possible from biological parents that they cant find them!
Removal from family is quite simple,- as you don't have to explain parents why you are doing this,- and Social Service Plc will provide you later all evidences needed,- we have our own GP's, lawyers, etc.- so don't worry, - if we wont be able to prove anything then we just will tick it as "Future emotional harm",- that is what we always do and British public will never find out!
If family is not giving you child and became aggressive,- then we will brand them as "family with mental health problems". Don't worry all this is very legal! When you see beautiful child ( to meet adoption targets) you have to act as fast as possible before family flees abroad! see in video attached to this video how they run off,- so make sure they haven't got time for this!!! So we take in care more than 1000 children per month and nothing happened!! :)
After child is removed you have to put him in foster care. It is easy as no specific requirements needed for foster parents,- no sex, no age, no criminal history mater,- as our Family Courts never will judge foster parents who neglect, we only do that with biological parents! Every week 2 children dies in care and no one been punished for this so no stress!! You can give even children to your own uncles, aunts, brothers, sisters or ex prisoners as they cant find the job anywhere else because of their past,- and we will pay them £400/week. If that is special needs child then £7000/week.
Salary is very good and competitive! Then more you keep your mouth shut then more you get paid!
You also may get share from judge as they gets £500k per case!
Experts typically gets £28 000 for a simple report!
We make millions, - £18k per placement in adoption!
All your local authorities makes millions by hitting adoption targets!!
If you are interesting to apply for this job, - type in Google FORCED ADOPTION and click contact,- dont email please :)
Title: Re: Best model
Post by: Red Biker on Thursday, 18 May 2017, 12:33 AM
Hi Rufus,
That's truely awful! I did buy my 14 off Gumtree (feel bad now).


Red
Title: Re: Best model
Post by: gsxbarmy on Thursday, 18 May 2017, 12:42 AM
Quote from: Red Biker on Wednesday, 17 May  2017, 10:19 PM
I think it's a great example in that it's K5 with low milage and it's Black and Red with upgraded suspension.


Just looked closer at that picture - it DOES NOT have upgraded suspension at all. Those are standard Hagon shocks on the back that cost about £100 when new, they are NOT Nitro's - the standard ones work OK, but are very harsh.

The more I look at it, the more it seems expensive to me and basically un-cared for generally, low mileage or not.

Title: Re: Best model
Post by: Leyther on Thursday, 18 May 2017, 01:33 AM
Thanks for all the tips and comments guys, at this point I am starting to have second thoughts,  experience then tells me to leave alone as I would probably never settle with it and there will always be others.
The hard part is waiting for the right one I guess. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Best model
Post by: seth on Thursday, 18 May 2017, 06:05 AM
they say what is for you wont go by you
you'll know the right bike when you see it

again good luck  :cheers:
Title: Re: Best model
Post by: Red Biker on Thursday, 18 May 2017, 06:06 AM
When I bought mine it was very unloved, too much oil in, probably topped up the day I bought it, scratched exhaust, peeling Calipers and forks etc etc
Initially I thought I'd made a mistake but soooooo glad I did buy it and wouldn't swap it for the world. Now it's revamped the age and low mileage (14k) is a bonus and it's a bike for life.
I paid £3,500

Title: Re: Best model
Post by: VladTepes on Thursday, 18 May 2017, 09:57 AM
Rufus that ad reads to me like a parent who had their child taken by child services (or whatever the equivalent there is) and having a rant.
Title: Re: Best model
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Thursday, 18 May 2017, 04:15 PM
I'd buy any 1400, any condition, the price just needs to be right.

Mine came with a dented tank, damaged clocks and some gravel rash.
(Full system, PC111, PAIR blanked, luggage, fork brace etc etc)

To buy it and put it on the road cost me $2625 / £1510.
Mates have bought 2 or 3 damaged 14's.

There are some real nice ones about but you don't want a project at "cared for" prices!  Scabby frames, cases, and non-beneficial bolt ons need to be reflected in the price.
Title: Re: Best model
Post by: Gra Har on Thursday, 18 May 2017, 08:29 PM
GHowdy, I come by mine unexpectedly. I had made my mine up to trade my Burgman in  on a new Kawasaki 1000 Verseys. I rode the Burgmen in to my local Kawasaki and Suzuki dealer and right there at the shopfront doors was the SE14. It caught my eye instantly and inquired if it was a shop bike, or on consignment. Shop bike it was, I took it for a test ride, cleaned and reoiled the chain and took it back to the shop. I asked if he was interested in trading the scoot, yes was the answer and he gave me the same trade-in price as on the Verseys - we shook hands and the rest is making history :boogie:
Title: Re: Best model
Post by: Leyther on Friday, 19 May 2017, 01:37 AM
This is on the radar.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/292119887218?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Anyone know it, any comments, I'm really tempted to press the buy button.
Title: Re: Best model
Post by: Blubber on Friday, 19 May 2017, 02:04 AM
Don't know the bike but it looks good.
Title: Re: Best model
Post by: gsxbarmy on Friday, 19 May 2017, 02:16 AM
Quote from: Leyther on Friday, 19 May  2017, 01:37 AM
This is on the radar.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/292119887218?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Anyone know it, any comments, I'm really tempted to press the buy button.

Just taken a good hard look at the pictures - that's very clean, very nice, only thing that "spoils" it are the front indicators that the previous owner has put on, but they are easy sorted - and that's all that I can find from the pictures! Main stand is there, things like the sprocket hub in perfect condition - I doubt its been out in the rain much if at all.
Think I'd be very tempted to press the buy button as well - or maybe call them to see if they will do a deal with your 'Busa???

But yes, that is a very nice looking 14 - and not too shabby a price for an '06 at a dealers
Title: Re: Best model
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Friday, 19 May 2017, 04:19 AM
Quote from: Leyther on Friday, 19 May  2017, 01:37 AM
This is on the radar.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/292119887218?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Anyone know it, any comments, I'm really tempted to press the buy button.

That doesn't look bad.
Stuff like the chop to the rear guard, can, new bars, K&N (sticker?), crash bars, rad guard etc etc are all pretty common on a 14 by now.
You'd need to have a close look but the pics wouldn't put me off.
Title: Re: Best model
Post by: Rynglieder on Friday, 19 May 2017, 06:01 AM
I suppose the thing to remember is that the "newest" GSX1400 you can buy now is going to be 10 years old so unless you are very lucky you will have to live with a few compromises.

Age will do things to a machine even if it hasn't been abused.

I suppose the thing to look for are weaknesses in things that you would want to change yourself anyway; I wonder how many completely original bikes there are still around?

The GSX is a great platform for dressing up to suit a rider's personal taste although I am trying really hard to keep mine looking like the day I bought it over thirteen years ago.

Good luck with your search, I'm sure the right one for you is out there somewhere.
Title: Re: Best model
Post by: Red Biker on Friday, 19 May 2017, 07:30 AM
Looks pristine that!
No blemishes on forks or rocker trim, absolutely standard by the look of it apart from as Dave says.
Beautiful colour, definite green light from me👍
Title: Re: Best model
Post by: Mick_J on Friday, 19 May 2017, 04:38 PM
Quote from: Leyther on Friday, 19 May  2017, 01:37 AM
This is on the radar.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/292119887218?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Anyone know it, any comments, I'm really tempted to press the buy button.

Well the auction is over, did you win it?