As the information showed by the official site, the Power Commander PC-V now is straight fit for 2002-2007 GSX1400
(also the AutoTune parts) :
Installation Instructions:
http://www.powercommander.com/downloads/20-056/install/pcv/engI20-056.01.pdf
Product list:
http://www.powercommander.com/powercommander/powercommander.aspx?mk=21&mdl=182&yr=880
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So glad I didn't get a PC3 now. Gotta wait for Ozzy distro to get them in, probably going to be special order with eleventy billion week wait :frustrated:
I fitted a Powercommander III USB I got off gumtree for a great price and took it for a ride last Monday and for me a lot better just need to find somewhere to dyno and fine tune it.
Just looked on the Power Commander site and the PCIII had now been discontinued in favour of the PC-V
http://www.powercommander.com/powercommander/powercommander.aspx?mk=21&mdl=182&yr=1333
Nice so they finaly come to their senses, i'm just have that mounted for 4 years now (PCV with autotune) :imrgreen: :imrgreen:.
It's probably the same one but with a different cable connector instead of the one for 1200bandit that i use ;) .
Cheers Maveric
Do I need one? have a standard K5 with a Yoshi dual oval as fitted from new - what would I gain? :smile2:
Quote from: Notty on Saturday, 22 April 2017, 04:33 AM
Do I need one? have a standard K5 with a Yoshi dual oval as fitted from new - what would I gain? :smile2:
Nothing to not much Notty - yours may run a bit smoother but really PC's are mainly where different exhausts are fitted or engines tuned in some way from standard where ther suelling needs amendment.
So unless you are going to fit an aftermarket exhaust like an Akra or fit Yoshi cams - in standard trim, there is no real (if any benefit).
layout of PCV 20-056 (GSX1400 2002-2007)
Quote from: Notty on Saturday, 22 April 2017, 04:33 AM
Do I need one? have a standard K5 with a Yoshi dual oval as fitted from new - what would I gain? :smile2:
The biggest advantage that I found in the past with a PC3 on one of my previous 14's was that it immediately did away with the snatchy throttle at low revs (even though the TPS was within spec) once I had it Dyno'd it did away with it all together and ran as smooth as silk and pulled like a proper train!
The guy that did the custom map as well as having his own tuning business (Motrac Race Engineering) did a lot of work for some of the leading race teams and wasn't happy until he could ride around his car park in first gear and there be no on or off throttle judder at all, myself and another member (Tigger/Pete) from the old ORG went together on the same day to Ellesmere Port
Cheers
Pete...
Hi! Anyone used the Autotune modul? And what work was involved in tuning prossess? Dyno or road? And how was the result?
I already have a PC3 so wont be upgrading as there's be no benefit I can see...
For anyone looking for a second hand PC-V you can broaden your horizons a bit when searching for one. The same unit is also fitted to Suzuki Bandit 1250 water cooled models :onya:
I bought one for mine stupid cheap and then never got around to fitting it :rolleyes:
Any "stupid cheap" yoshi st1 cams around?
Quote from: Eric GSX1400K3 on Thursday, 23 July 2020, 06:53 PM
Any "stupid cheap" yoshi st1 cams around?
:rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: that should be in the jokes section.
The last affordable ones that came up here are now in my engine :P
Quote from: Snorre Kristoffersen on Thursday, 23 July 2020, 08:42 AM
Hi! Anyone used the Autotune modul? And what work was involved in tuning prossess? Dyno or road? And how was the result?
I have a autotune module. During normal road conditions it is impossible to get to 100% throttle opening long enough to cover the full range.
On a private road, long stretch, no speed limit and various engine loads... i think you can get to about 70% of all the increments you want.
We have a member on here who set up his 14 with just the autotune only to discover it made about 90? Bhp ...only because the upper throttle range wasnt tuned yet.
In my moderate experience you still need a rolling road setup as a decent base. Fine tuning via autotune is ok... baseline not
Quote from: VladTepes on Friday, 24 July 2020, 11:14 AM
Quote from: Eric GSX1400K3 on Thursday, 23 July 2020, 06:53 PM
Any "stupid cheap" yoshi st1 cams around?
:rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: that should be in the jokes section.
The last affordable ones that came up here are now in my engine :P
I did ask that question with your "gain" :notworthy: in mind VladTepes
I havd been away from FI for some years... On my previous GSX1550 I uploaded and tried sevdral maps on dyno, must say that the difference was marginal. Actually I had good values hp and torque wo pc3 at all. Last night I mounted a Black Widow 4-1 exhaust on my new K2. Expecting to feel the need of a pc5, but it was smooth as a silk sheet. Next will be ST1 cams, and I must say that I will wait to buy pc5 until I know how it works.
Quote from: froudy on Thursday, 23 July 2020, 06:06 PM
For anyone looking for a second hand PC-V you can broaden your horizons a bit when searching for one. The same unit is also fitted to Suzuki Bandit 1250 water cooled models :onya:
I bought one for mine stupid cheap and then never got around to fitting it :rolleyes:
Ah so the gsx 1250 pc is just the same plug n play?
Quote from: Eric GSX1400K3 on Thursday, 23 July 2020, 06:53 PM
Any "stupid cheap" yoshi st1 cams around?
When you see them they are always a con .
There was a guy who sold a set of standard cams in a yoshi box last year he got found out at £250 but sold them later for £400
Hi folks
Power Commander website reads Power Commander 6 is on the market
https://www.dynojet.com/power-commander-6-for-2002-2007-suzuki-gsx-1400-pc6-20056/
Quote from: Athelstanexxx on Monday, 01 August 2022, 06:33 PM
Hi folks
Power Commander website reads Power Commander 6 is on the market
https://www.dynojet.com/power-commander-6-for-2002-2007-suzuki-gsx-1400-pc6-20056/
When some of you rush out & buy the new PC6, I'll happily take your PCV off your hands ;)
2nd that
I'll stick to my serial connection PC3 thanks, does everything I need on a 14.
I guess if you haven't got one it's good there's still an up to date version being produced, however a PowerCommander has quite a limited amount of options on a 14 (as does an ECU flash) so I'm not sure how much you'd gain from going for 6 instead of a 3 or 5.
I'd be interested to see a side by side comparison. Even if the 6 takes more recent auto-tune hardware would you really get worthy noticeable gains over a well mapped 3 ? Not knocking the GSX but it's ECU is fairly basic.
@Tony Nitrous The fuel injection and ecu on the gsx1400 Was amongst the most advanced there was when it came out but that was 30 years ago and your right,
and things in that technology have moved on so much since then.
Still be interested to see bit I agree I doubt anything will do much more than a pc3 set up by someone who knows what they are doing . :cheers:
Quote from: seth on Tuesday, 02 August 2022, 05:12 AM
@tonyp
The fuel injection and ecu on the gsx1400 Was amongst the most advanced there was when it came out but that was 30 years ago and your right,
and things in that technology have moved on so much since then.
Still be interested to see bit I agree I doubt anything will do much more than a pc3 set up by someone who knows what they are doing . :cheers:
I understand they can still make advances, stuff like the auto-tune options, multiple maps, individual cylinders etc, but yeah, it's still only doing basic fueling on a 30 year old system.
It's still interesting and I'll try and stay open minded, I'd love to try an optioned up 6 against my dyno mapped 3 and see how noticeable the differences are.
Anyone got a before and after PC run on the same Dyno ? With no other mods.
Quote from: steve porter on Tuesday, 02 August 2022, 06:56 AM
Anyone got a before and after PC run on the same Dyno ? With no other mods.
I do somewhere, but not at home to find it.
Biggest differences was low speeds response and smoothness, top end power didn't change much but it got a lot better where I normally ride in the throttle/rev range.
Know nothing about PC except it only adjusts A/F ratio. Thats it. Mine runs perfectly at every rev, throttle opening, Never-found a reason to bother. Im not racing, after extra power, just a good ride. Thats what it does. I can appreciate why needed on dyno, just not for me. My work scan tool doesnt work on 14, does on multiple cars, can see live data and adjust lots. That can really change a cars driving habits. Done on real drive, not dyno. 😎
I thought mine ran great till it was mapped grog, it made it even better. But then early ones are known to be rich. Mind you they run pretty good as standard so it's not a night n day change
Quote from: Tony Nitrous on Tuesday, 02 August 2022, 04:33 AM
I guess if you haven't got one it's good there's still an up to date version being produced, however a PowerCommander has quite a limited amount of options on a 14 (as does an ECU flash) so I'm not sure how much you'd gain from going for 6 instead of a 3 or 5.
I'd be interested to see a side by side comparison. Even if the 6 takes more recent auto-tune hardware would you really get worthy noticeable gains over a well mapped 3 ? Not knocking the GSX but it's ECU is fairly basic.
Are the PC111 still available? I haven't been able to find one?
Are the PC111 still available - I haven't been able to find one?
Quote from: Fast1400 on Thursday, 04 August 2022, 07:48 AM
Are the PC111 still available - I haven't been able to find one?
Think it'll be 2nd hand now for a PC3, the 5 should be easier to get hold of
Hi!
I have installed the PC Autotune modul, anyone know the best target AFR for the 14?
As std Dynojet tries to adjust to 13,8:1 on all throttle settings and rpms, and this target may be a little on the lean side?