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That four pot Tokico front caliper

Started by Rod G, Tuesday, 07 March 2017, 08:11 PM

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Rod G

Mmmm, can't locate my original post on this.  :bugga:

Finally took the bike for a maiden, new brakes ride today.
 
Given I am using used pads on my original discs, the pads are not yet bedded from the concrete scrubbing I gave them, but my initial feeling is that the new caliper seems quite the same in a braking response sense.

I think I can say though that they appear to have better "feel" than the three pot, but this is a subjective thing really.  I'll know more as I gain experience with it

As to being better? Time will tell.  I am probably not the rider to ask how the brake reacts to a slam dunk attack on the lever, as I've never had to do so with three pot, and so I 'm not really competent to comment on a comparison under these extreme conditions.

As an aside, and again a bit subjective, but I think some pulsing I experienced in the past has improved also.  I do understand why this would be so.   Anyhow there it is FWIW..  Stay upright guys!!  Rod G
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VladTepes

Yep im happy with my 4 pots.
Better? As you say that's subjective.  I think so.
Certainly not worse!
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Cykik

In the process of fitting 4 pots & braided lines to mine. I'll find out next month if they're any better..
Started out with nothing, still got most of it left.

gsxbarmy

Quote from: Cykik on Wednesday, 08 March  2017, 03:17 AM
In the process of fitting 4 pots & braided lines to mine. I'll find out next month if they're any better..

You wouldn't like to photograph and document the process and any pitfalls / tips would you and post up here (for the benefit of others who might want to do similar?). If you could it would be appreciated.
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gsxbarmy

Nothing to do.............all day to do it....I love retirement :lol:

Rod G

Quote from: gsxbarmy on Wednesday, 08 March  2017, 05:07 AM
Quote from: Cykik on Wednesday, 08 March  2017, 03:17 AM
In the process of fitting 4 pots & braided lines to mine. I'll find out next month if they're any better..

You wouldn't like to photograph and document the process and any pitfalls / tips would you and post up here (for the benefit of others who might want to do similar?). If you could it would be appreciated.
Quote from: gsxbarmy on Wednesday, 08 March  2017, 05:07 AM
Quote from: Cykik on Wednesday, 08 March  2017, 03:17 AM
In the process of fitting 4 pots & braided lines to mine. I'll find out next month if they're any better..

You wouldn't like to photograph and document the process and any pitfalls / tips would you and post up here (for the benefit of others who might want to do similar?). If you could it would be appreciated.

Barmy, as you will know, this is a straight out bolt on swap, and so owners can follow procedure set out in the Owners Manual for removing/replacing the brake caliper.  If not described therein and to keep the floor clean, apply clamps to both hoses prior to unbolting them.  When bleeding the brake system, take the opportunity to pump through enough fluid to replace the old.  It's a very straightforward job really.  HTH.  Rod G
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bigian14

Quote from: David Nolan on Friday, 10 March  2017, 04:21 PM
Lads what 4 pots do ye convert to?
SV1000 ones on mine, straight swap. Refurbished them and powder coated satin black before fitting. Much better feel to them than the standard 6 pot calipers.

VladTepes

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Rod G

Those red wheels will give you away Bro!!  Nice allround.. That red paint will likely allow it some speed and probably up there with the blue/white.   :rolleyes: :rolleyes:  Rod G
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RickC

#10
The February 2010 Performance Bikes magazine did a brake test on a GSXR 1000K1 (6pots similar to ours), an extract from the Gixxer forum:

recently 'modernised' a GSXR1K2, part of which involved improving the brakes.

Directly from the mag article:

100mph - 0mph

Std Calipers and pads - 104.16m
Std Calipers and EBC pads - 93.73m
K3 SV1000 Calipers and EBC pads - 86.82m
K3 SV1000 Calipers and radial m/c GSXR750K4 - 97.47m




Rod G

Quote from: RickC on Saturday, 11 March  2017, 08:24 PM
The February 2010 Performance Bikes magazine did a brake test on a GSXR 1000K1 (6pots similar to ours), an extract from the Gixxer forum:

recently 'modernised' a GSXR1K2, part of which involved improving the brakes.

Directly from the mag article:

100mph - 0mph

Std Calipers and pads - 104.16m
Std Calipers and EBC pads - 93.73m
K3 SV1000 Calipers and EBC pads - 86.82m
K3 SV1000 Calipers and radial m/c GSXR750K4 - 97.47m

So, comparing apples and apples (4/6 calipers and ECB pads) 7m is significant, and reinforces the idea that more is not always better!!  Thanks for the info.  Rod g  :)
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Rod G

Just spotted an '07 Bandit 1250 with a 4 pot caliper.  Perhaps that might swap over to the 1400 also??  Rod G 
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gsxbarmy

Not one I've heard reported and I'm someone would have determined if that was the case by now. I think the gap between the bolt holes is different and they won't fit.
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froudy

From memory the bolt hole spacing on the Bandit is 90mm..The GSX14 is 60 something?
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