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Offline KiwiCol

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Re: Difficulty finding neutral
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday, 15 January 2019, 02:30 am »
Just shift a bit more 'positively'.  If it continues to happen, try adjusting the gear lever down a bit - closer to your boot.

I think the false neutral is mostly caused (barring mechanical issues) by a 'light' upshift - not quite going the full distance, adjusting the lever down moves it closer to your boot & requires less movement from your foot to get the correct travel.


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Re: Difficulty finding neutral
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday, 15 January 2019, 04:36 am »
For more feel. Ride in bare feet or jandals  :facepalm: :facepalm:
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Re: Difficulty finding neutral
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday, 15 January 2019, 06:04 am »
For more feel. Ride in bare feet or jandals  :facepalm: :facepalm:

Don’t forget the shorts and T shirt for that ‘full on’ experience!

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Re: Difficulty finding neutral
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday, 15 January 2019, 06:49 am »
This morning at the lights...

1-2-1-2-1-2-1-N

Happened like this several times (but not every time).

Anyone got any ideas on what may be causing this?




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Re: Difficulty finding neutral
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday, 15 January 2019, 08:56 am »
@gsxbarmy @Kiwifruit @seth Thank you. Looks as if I'll need to find the relevant section in the workshop manual to make sense of that !  :)

Different shoes / boots?
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  You're not riding in your dance shoes by any chance?.............     
No but if you send me yours, I'll try 'em if it'll help.  :whistling:

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Shifting too fast to find neutral?

Oil cold (in Aussie??) n basket sticking? till it warms up

Too fast? No mate, shifting slowly, in attempt to find neutral.
Oil cold? In an Aussie summer?   :happy1:

Just shift a bit more 'positively'.  If it continues to happen, try adjusting the gear lever down a bit - closer to your boot.

I think the false neutral is mostly caused (barring mechanical issues) by a 'light' upshift - not quite going the full distance, adjusting the lever down moves it closer to your boot & requires less movement from your foot to get the correct travel.

Isn't a false neutral when its shows a neutral light, but isn't?

This is an actual difficulty in getting the box into neutral at times.

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Re: Difficulty finding neutral
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday, 15 January 2019, 09:16 am »
Just shift a bit more 'positively'.  If it continues to happen, try adjusting the gear lever down a bit - closer to your boot.

I think the false neutral is mostly caused (barring mechanical issues) by a 'light' upshift - not quite going the full distance, adjusting the lever down moves it closer to your boot & requires less movement from your foot to get the correct travel.



Mike,  this reply was for Taniwha, it follows his question but it's on a new page.
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Re: Difficulty finding neutral
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday, 15 January 2019, 09:29 am »
I understood a false neutral was getting the gear change 'stuck' between gear selection, so that you end up without any gear at all, the engine revs soon let ya know though . . .   bit of a flick upwards & you're off again.  No neutral light comes up - red face does though, much the same as reaching for 7th.
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Re: Difficulty finding neutral
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday, 15 January 2019, 07:18 pm »
Vlad, not about false neutrals, just finding real neutral, correct? Any prob with motor off? If ok with motor off, clutch is dragging. Simple.

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Re: Difficulty finding neutral
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday, 16 January 2019, 09:27 am »
Not sure - seems to be working OK again. If it recurs I'll see if there's a difference between engine off or running.
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Re: Difficulty finding neutral
« Reply #24 on: Saturday, 26 January 2019, 08:53 pm »
Do you use semi-synthetic or fully synthetic oil?
That happened with cold or hot engine?

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Re: Difficulty finding neutral
« Reply #25 on: Sunday, 27 January 2019, 08:43 pm »
Semi
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Re: Difficulty finding neutral
« Reply #26 on: Monday, 28 January 2019, 08:28 am »
Not sure - seems to be working OK again. If it recurs I'll see if there's a difference between engine off or running.

Crap clutch action causing it to be hard to find N & clutch slip when first riding off on mine was the first sign that the slave cylinder was caked up with crud. Cleaning it out fixed it.

 

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